The new law permits pedestrians to cross a roadway at any point, including outside of a crosswalk. It also allows for crossing against traffic signals and specifically states that doing so is no longer a violation of the city’s administrative code. But the new law also warns that pedestrians crossing outside of a crosswalk do not have the right of way and that they should yield to other traffic that has the right of way.

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    Good, especially since the law just targets POC.

    If car traffic became 50% worse to make walking traffic 5% better, that’s a win for humans in the city. It’ll help convince more people to use non-car methods of transportation and that helps spark people to vote for and invest in more non-car infrastructure.

    Ditching cars in populated cities isn’t a magic law or anything, it’s a slow incremental burn; legalizing pedestrians walking strictly helps that

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        Agree, but it’s certainly easier to do in NYC than rural places in the US, so I advocate for starting there

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          Honestly? Buses would be a good short-term solution that can be implemented immediately with the right political will, and enough force.

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          The US used to have a comprehensive rail network. Every single town had a train station. We already had the solution to this problem.

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            I live in a rail hub in the us. The city is nicknamed after it and train tracks literally run through the city center.

            It would take me 6 hours to walk there.

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            and what do you use to get to the train station?

            how do you carry goods to that station? Does your train have a stop in every farm?

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              Wow you’re right there is a use case for a vehicle therefore it’s literally impossible to have public transit in rural areas, despite the fact that it already existed /s

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                it’s not like i don’t hate cars, i do. But i really can’t see how you’re going to convince “rurals” with that argument

                good luck to you

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    “Jaywalking” being a crime is such a fundamentally brainrot thing

    The law here in Brazil, not that anyone follows it, but it basically follows the logic of “the smaller you are, the more of a right of way you have”. I.e. theoretically, a car should ALWAYS stop or slow itself to save a pedestrian or cyclist or even a motorcyclist

    … Again, not that anyone follows it, but it IS on the paper.

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    They were also fans of using it against left-wing protestors while ignoring the right doing it, particularly in the case of anti-genocide protests. I assume they will just find something new to pick people off in the crowd now.

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      Eh, keeping car traffic smooth is way more challenging than keeping pedestrian traffic smooth. Also people tend to be more chaotic in there direction than cars. If a car stops in front of you you’re sorta stuck if a human stops in front of you you can always bash him in the head with a bar stool or go around or whatever.

      I know it was auto manufacturers lobbying for the law but can you imagine people just randomly darting across an interstate moving at 80+ mph? I can because I have seen it before and not once have I thought wow I sure am glad that’s legal.

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        The entire concept of a car is a scam from manufacturing to driving it. Source: Former car mechanic who has hated cars since before it was cool.

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          What, wait, no. I’ve lived in very rural areas, wtf was I supposed to do without a car? Bike back and forth a few hours for groceries?

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        I think you might have picked a bad community to share your sympathies for smooth car traffic, I’m afraid.

        For what it’s worth, I think it’s reasonable enough to forbid pedestrians from crossing high-speed (60+ mph) roads, but otherwise they should have full right of way over any road, and fuck the cars. They can just be patient and deal with it.

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          But what if those roads didn’t have to exist at all. We could replace those with dedicated high speed rail corridors.

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        I will never be sad when car brains like you learn the hard way that cars are nothing but weapons. This is exactly why cars should be completely illegal, full stop.

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    restricting where and when people can walk in in a public space? sounds like communism

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    When you can’t train police not to be racist, just give up and make shit legal. What could possibly go wrong?

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    While I certainly don’t think it should be a crime, 90% of the time I see people do it, they are near crosswalks and continue to walk towards them after dangerously playing frogger. What is the motivation? Why are you increasing the danger? Doesn’t make any sense.

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      In a lot of situations I would rather cross mid block than at a corner crosswalk. The cars can’t be relied on to stop anyway, and mid-block there are a lot less directions you have to worry about.

      Even if the intersection is signalized given the existence of right turns on red it’s still often safer to cross mid block.

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        That’s a good point most places, but in NYC, there is no turn on red. I still agree with being able to cross anywhere.

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      In Denmark it’s illegal to cross the road 10-20m (or something like that, forgot the exact number) from a croasswalk. Outside that zone you can cross as much as you want. We are though seeing fences pop up on higher traffic roads to discourage crossing, but mostly on ring roads in bigger cities, not in the cities themselves.

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        There’s no exact number. The law (færdselsloven §10.5) says “nearby”.