• ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip
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    In really it’s probably a mix that totals to around 90% of the people making these pronouncements are either bots, paid trolls from enemy nations, nihilists, or the equivalent. The remaining 10% probably have a genuine belief that voting for Harris makes them complicit in the genocide the Israeli government and its military are committing. They’re incorrect, on many levels, but that is probably their genuine belief.

    We must always vote for the lesser evil because that’s what the real world is, from the most negative point of view: reducing evil and suffering. We know some of the things we’re doing today will be seen as evil by our progeny. We don’t know others.

    A Harris administration will be the most likely to reduce the suffering of Palestinians, the most likely to force the Israeli government and military to end the genocide, and the most likely to make real strides toward middle east peace.

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      We must always vote for the lesser evil because that’s what the real world is

      Ah, the world is always things getting more evil, the choice is just slower or faster? Sounds shit to me, you can have it.

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          Yes, that’s the sound of things getting worse.

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            So get off your computer and do something about it instead of lording your morality over the rest of us here.

            Get involved with an organization and go physically help in Gaza. Go volunteer your time for your local pro Palestine congressperson. I’ll wait.

            Oh no but you’re sitting here pushing propaganda talking points, which you somehow believe is helpful but actually tacitly supports the literal Nazi candidate who calls people vermin. Because that’s the thing that is really helpful.

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              Oh no but you’re sitting here pushing propaganda talking points

              “Killing innocent people is bad” is harmful propaganda? Okay.

              If that makes the Dem party look bad, you can’t say it’s my fault. I didn’t conjure up the moral rule that killing is wrong, and nor did I ask any Dem politician to support it.

               

              So get off your computer and do something about it instead of lording your morality over the rest of us here.

              You seem to think that saying ‘killing innocent people is bad’ is a ridiculously lofty moral position, one so far out of touch with reality that stating it is in some way worthy of disgust.
              And that’s exactly why I say it. Because people need to hear it, because they react to it with disgust, indicating that people don’t really care about the issue.

              I do, though. Because killing innocent people is wrong. What I do about that is that I have never killed anyone. And, when it happens, I disagree with it. And I keep saying it, even when people get angry that I’m making such a big issue out of something so normalised.

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      You come off as someone who had the protocols of the elders of Zion read to you in your sleep every night without your knowledge

      In really it’s probably a mix that totals to around 90% of the people making these pronouncements are either bots, paid trolls from enemy nations, nihilists, or the equivalent.

      All you’re missing is that one magic word