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sub_ubi@lemmy.mlBanned from community to politics @lemmy.world · 7 months ago

Trump leading Harris among Arab Americans, poll suggests

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sub_ubi@lemmy.mlBanned from community to politics @lemmy.world · 7 months ago
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The poll is the latest warning sign to Democrats that the war in Gaza is costing support among a key voting bloc.
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    Could be done with a phone call, if Bibi gave two shits about what we think, and he doesn’t. He really, really doesn’t.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/22/opinion/gaza-israel-biden-netanyahu.html

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cje3zl0dq2ko

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-netanyahu-rejects-biden-warning-innocent-palestinian-lives/

    https://www.businessinsider.com/netanyahu-biden-warnings-war-seriously-lebanon-hezbollah-israel-ground-incursion-2024-9

    https://www.foreignaffairsreview.com/home/why-netanyahu-doesnt-want-a-hostage-deal

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-09-24/ty-article-opinion/.premium/why-netanyahu-is-really-delaying-a-hostage-deal-the-disgrace-over-oct-7-that-awaits-him/00000192-2013-dc44-affb-3993f68d0000

    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-06-24-2024-f5de2ed8288ac3cdb02c4e9e2fbaeda1

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      The phone call must include the magic words, “or no more weapons”

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        They don’t need our weapons to shoot little kids in the head. Bullets are cheap.

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/02/gaza-palestinian-children-killed-idf-israel-war

        It doesn’t matter if we cut off the supply or not, they don’t need our weapons.

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          They absolutely do depend on the US lol, it’s a vassal state.

          Please educate yourself. Even Israeli academics admit this.

          https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/israels-dependence-united-states-existential

          https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-could-israel-manage-without-us-support-1001473884

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            Israel is, depending on how you count it, between the #8th to #10th largest weapons dealer in the world. They don’t need OUR weapons.

            https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/top-10-largest-arms-exporters-in-the-world/

            https://www.statista.com/statistics/267131/market-share-of-the-leadings-exporters-of-conventional-weapons/

            https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-share-global-arms-exports-2022/

            https://globelynews.com/world/world-top-arms-exporting-countries/amp/

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              What the hell are these links, “visual capitalist” lmao

              Please use academic sources. A US colony isn’t going to survive without US support

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                Links supporting what I’m telling you, depending on how you count it, Israel is the #8, #9, #10 largest arms exporter in the world.

                Us telling them “Yeah, well, we’re cutting you off…” means exactly nothing to them.

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                  man you’re obstinant. Israel selling weapons tech doesn’t mean they can produce the physical bombs, missiles, tanks they need to continue the war let alone defend from a coordinated counterattack.

                  Benjamin Miller says it best,

                  "Israel cannot work alone. It needs financial aid as well as backing in the international arena from some major power. China and Russia are certainly not partners and Europe is very critical of Israel these days, and sensitive in the humanitarian field. Australia and Canada are also not a real option, because their tendency towards us is similar to that of Europe.

                  What does the US provide Israel in terms of foreign aid as well as in the diplomatic arena, which we would have a very difficult time doing without? Firstly, there is the defense aid, which in normal times amounts to $3.8 billion annually, about NIS 14 billion (Israel’s defense budget, without US aid, is NIS 65 billion annually in normal times.) Also on the agenda today is aid totaling $14 billion to support the war, which has not yet been approved by Congress.

                  Apart from the two aircraft carriers that the US sent here at the start of the war, to deter Iran and Hezbollah, it has also been frequently supplying Israel with artillery and tank shells and as well as bombs for aircraft. “If the US stops aid in the field of armaments,” says Miller, “That’s a huge problem for Israel, because it also needs to stockpile weapons in preparation for a possible war against Hezbollah. In such a case, we will need a huge amount of weapons.”

                  No less important than the aid that the US gives to Israel, Miller stresses, is in the use it makes for our benefit of the veto it has in the UN Security Council. Thanks to the US, several resolutions regarding a ceasefire in Gaza were thwarted in the last few months alone. “Since October 7, the US has used the veto three times in our favor,” says Miller.

                  Prior to October 7, it looked like Israel has additional partners in the international arena in China and Russia. Only last June Netanyahu was proud about being invited to visit China by President Xi Jinping.

                  "That was also another conception that Netanyahu had before October 7 that has been shattered. The conception was that Israel could maneuver between the three great powers - the US, China and Russia - and supposedly benefit from all worlds.

                  https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-could-israel-manage-without-us-support-1001473884

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                    All they need to do that is money, and they have the money.

                    So, to re-iterate:

                    Netanyahu isn’t interested in what we have to say, and isn’t threatened by our cutting off support.

                    There are two ways the genocide ends:

                    1. They kill every last Palestinian, devastate Gaza, Lebanon, the West Bank and, crap, throw in the Golan Heights too. Why not?

                    2. Someone steps in, forcibly separates Israel from the Palestinians, and MAKES them stop.

                    Nobody has the political willpower for #2.

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