I had a discussion with @Cowbee@lemmy.ml recently where they insisted that Anarchists on Hexbear accept Lenin’s analysis of Imperialism and therefore all support “Actual Existing Socialist” states such as Cuba, USSR and I guess North Korea as well.

In fact, they argued it’s the reason most anarchists of Hexbear don’t like to discuss anarchism away from hexbear, explicitly because outside anarchists do not support “AES”.

So I’m curious to see what your thoughts are on this. If you’re an anarchist who supports “AES” how do you square this support with the conflict these states have with anarchist theory on hierarchy?

  • Comrade Spood@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    24 days ago

    I think you have the right values, but I think your conclusion is a bit off. I think supporting a state is antithetical to being an anarchist. You can support the people, and not a state. For example I support the Ukrainian people in their defense against the Russian state’s imperialism, however I do not support the Ukrainian state. I think its fine to think some states are better than others, but supporting a state is something else entirely. We need to break away from the idea of the nation state, and stop equating people with the nation state they are a part of.

    Edit: To add to this, I do not think an anarcho-communist society is idealism, and I don’t think we should settle for a “pragmatic” alternative. I think too many anarchists have fallen into a defeatist mentality, and while support anarchism, they dont believe it to be tangible. I think that is what makes anarchism intangible currently, too many of us don’t believe we can win. We lose by giving up

    • FundMECFSResearch
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      24 days ago

      I get what you’re saying but this is how my brain works:

      In the current state of affairs, I support the Ukrainian state in it’s defence against Russian imperialism. However, ideally, in my view, all states, including the Ukrainian one should not exist.