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    So what protections are in place in the US to prevent surgery being done for the same ‘wrong’ reasons?

    The difference is you’re not forced to get it under the threat of death. And I’m not American, but as far as I know you also need a psychological evaluation to get it.

    If the healthcare system was actually brainwashing people into getting surgeries they don’t need that would be a general issue, not specifically a trans one.

    In reality the regret rates for gender affirming surgery is usually found to be under 1%, which is extremely low and lower than almost any other type of surgery. See e.g. A systematic review of patient regret after surgery.

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          Well. That didn’t take long.

          Edit.

          I’ve just noticed the post you removed. I assumed it was my rant about the implications of this news story, but no. It’s the post with the actual fucking data in it from two medical sources…

          Where exactly was the misinformation. Was it the Cass report, or the critiques offered by medical professionals in a medical journal?

          And you wonder why people get angry about these issues…

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        The point I’m making is that it’s naïve to think that legal mandate has so much less a power to influence people than social pressure, ideology, marketing etc.

        That’s why Coca-Cola are more powerful than most governments.

        lmao.

        What an embarrassing thing to say. I’m sure you think you’re very smart, using a diaeresis, but stop and think about what you’re actually saying for a minute longer.

        If it doesn’t become clear to you, no, social pressure is not stronger than physical coercion with the threat of death from a police force nearly indistinguishable from the army.

        And the thing about Coca-Cola is a complete non sequitur. It’s possible that they are more powerful than many governments because they have unfathomable amounts of money and most countries are tiny with only a few million poor inhabitants, but it’s got nothing to do with marketing.

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          It’s also ridiculous that they suggest that people are influenced by social pressure or even marketing to become trans. Not only does this not happen, if it did happen it would not work. Conversion therapy does not work. You can’t make people trans just like you can’t make people cis. If people who are actually cis transition they get gender dysphoria and become miserable.

          This is just conservative fearmongering with no basis in reality.

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          First, I said “so much less”, it contains within it the assumption that it is less. Try reading before launching into your prejudicial tirades.

          Second, Coca-Cola are an archetype for the increasing commercialisation pressure leading to the dismantling of cold-war era institutions in the eastern bloc. If the reference wasn’t obvious then perhaps it is you who needs to “think” a little longer.

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            the increasing commercialisation pressure leading to the dismantling of cold-war era institutions

            Another thing achieved at gunpoint (or rather nuclear-warhead-point).

            Also, it’s not prejudicial if I’m judging you on your actual words.

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              Another thing achieved at gunpoint (or rather nuclear-warhead-point).

              … is one opinion. Success of westernisation through corporate media is another. The difference is, I’m not trying to dismiss yours.

              not prejudicial if I’m judging you on your actual words.

              My actual words: “so much less”

              Your judgement: “so you’re saying its more”

              Which actual words did you use? The ones in your head?