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…And to think this guy has half the vote. What a place we live in. I wish we cared more about education. If people were smarter, we wouldn’t be in this situation.
That’s why Republicans have waged a war on education for decades.
If people were smarter you wouldn’t have Marijuana classified as schedule 1 and you would actually have a healthcare and not some for profit private insurance scam instead.
Unfortunately you can’t assume being smarter will automatically equate to empathy.
Remember that half is asleep since they can’t stand anyone or anything woke.
If 20 or more years ago, a writer wanted to write a book about USA sliding to religious dictatorship or fascism, they would create this extremely clever, very charismatic machiavellian genius.
Instead, we have a bumbling buffoon who probably can’t tie his shoes in the morning, and half the people seem to worship him like a god.
Half the electoral college vote. Still maddening but let’s not forget that a shitty election system is the only thing keeping the Republicans in power now
If half the people weren’t voting for him, the EC wouldn’t be an issue.
Depends how loose your definition of half is, I guess. Trump got 46.8% of the popular vote in 2020 vs Biden’s 51.3%.
2016: Trump 41.1% (still won) vs Clinton 48.2%. 2012: Obama 51.1% (winner) vs Romney 47.2%. 2008: Obama 52.9% (winner) vs McCain 45.7%. 2004: Bush 50.7% (winner) vs Kerry 48.3%. 2000: Bush 47.9% (still won) vs Gore 48.4%. 1996: Clinton 49.2% (winner) vs Dole 40.7% vs Perot 8.4%. 1992: Clinton 43% (winner) vs Bush 37.4% vs Perot 18.9%. 1988: Bush 53.4% (winner) vs Dukakis 45.6%. And that’s as far as I could be bothered to go back.
With the exception of Bush in 2004, every Republican president since 1988 won only because of the electoral college. See the problem?
It is still bonkers that 40% of the people vote for him. No matter how bad first past the post voting, electoral collage or party polarization is, if you can convince 40% of the people to vote for this man as president, that’s a problem with the voter base, not the EC.
It is still bonkers that…
Yes, and my initial comment was:
Still maddening, but…
we’re in violent agreement
I’m aware of the history. The EC should go. I also don’t need to miss the context of the discussion to make that point.
…And to think this guy has half the vote. What a place we live in. I wish we cared more about education. If people were smarter, we wouldn’t be in this situation.
Going by current polling, the two are statistically tied, with a few percentage points still going to RFK Jr and some undecideds. GP is correct to say “this guy has a half the vote”, and this would be true with or without the EC. If we had a population that wasn’t bending over backwards to justify sending a demented narcissist into the White House, the EC would not even be close to an issue this election.
I also don’t need to miss the context of the discussion…
Speaking of missing the context, my initial comment, to which you replied, was:
Still maddening [that so many vote for him], but…
Two things can be true at the same time. It’s maddening that so many vote for him, the electoral college is why republicans still win, and, I’ll throw you a bone, the electoral college probably wouldn’t be a problem if fewer people voted for Trump—but it would still be a damn stupid way to run an election.
Let me introduce a hypothetical: the electoral college didn’t exist, Republicans saw they couldn’t win on current policies as far back as 2012 and were forced to moderate to win the popular vote. We might not be in this current political climate in the first place
Misogyny and racism are hella strong drugs
Wasn’t that long ago that we had two candidates in evident cognitive decline, and we still would except for these embarrassing incidents.
I just want her to go full The Doctor on him:
“Don’t you think he looks tired?”
I am not a Trump supporter. However, the town hall meeting had a medical emergency, which threw the whole groove off. From all the evidence I’ve seen, I’ll give Trump props for seeing it and calling for a doctor on stage. That was the most human thing I ever saw him do (and to be clear there are other examples of this. Not many, but they exist)But anyway, I digress…I suspect the 30 minutes of music was a distraction to the medical emergency and also was supposed to present him as ‘fun’. I think after the emergency they just had to fill time and the whole situation just got fucked. IMO, Trump isn’t to blame for that weird shitEdit: I did not watch the entire town hall and have since watched it. The whole thing is an absolute shit show. I fell for the propagated clips to improve his image, but I’ve since learned that what I originally learned is wrong
That’s a highly misleading characterization
They only briefly paused after people fainted and then continued and changed the format to a Q&A with a speaker. Only a few questions into the Q&A he said “who wants to listen to questions” and “let’s listen to music”. He wrapped up making it sound like he was done, but then just stood there for 39 minutes nodding to music
The whole town hall is online, you can watch it yourself. Here’s how he spends the last 40 or so minutes https://youtu.be/bDZgox580B0?t=7447
Edit: also he showed zero respect for the people that fainted. He was insulting their weight and asked if “anyone else wants to faint too”
Alright. Might have misspoke. I saw clips which I obviously fell for the propaganda
There were some misleading initial reports about it, to be fair
Yeah. I could have better researched better before I commented. Also I greatly appreciate you being polite.
I also deleted the comment
Restore it and add an edit note that you fell for the propaganda so others can learn from you too. Strike out the text if you want to be extra clear.
Own your mistakes and help everyone!
Good idea. I don’t know how to strike out sentences, so if you could help me with that? I’ll work on restoring the comment
Edit: I actually don’t know how to restore the comment
For future striking out sentences use ~~ around the text ~~like this~~ to make it look
like thisNot sure if there’s a way to restore comments
If you are using an app I have no idea, but on a browser the three dots underneath switches between Delete and Undelete. The text editor options has one to
strike throughwhatever text you have already highlighted. If the strike through shows squiggles you might need to remove some spaces as they have to be right against the first and last words to work right.
Sadly this is how it works. Now imagine you’re one of the millions of people who absolutely wouldn’t care to dive deeper into this and just argue from the rooftops that he’s a brilliant person.
Respect for admitting you got conned the first time. All of us are vulnerable to propaganda, especially people who think they’re not.
Yo! It’s the Meal Team Six combat vet who uses a 1000yd stare to get people out of his way! Tell me more about your complex and nuanced politics.
Haha. Is that supposed to offend me? I don’t even know what you’re trying to go for here?
Just a good ol’ MAGA check.
Trying to prod you into being defensive or being a troll because you were repeating MAGA talking points.
But you weren’t and you aren’t.
Hope it was funnier than it was troubling. Have a good rest of your day.
I’d suggest you don’t prod. What you’re ultimately doing is bullying and I’m sure you don’t like it when someone does that to you
Prodding is the best way to find an abscess
Then you’re just a prick
Lol
Apparently his old age is outpacing his desperation
I wonder if Trump knows he is loosing, but has now lost control of his audiance. Imagine how his fans will react if he publicly stepped down…
Two problems, first he would never step down. Second his cult-like followers ain’t going anywhere, they are making up stories about it being genius move.
Apparently some people are saying that Trump played music to help someone with a medical emergency or something? I dunno, that doesn’t make any sense… Anyone know what the fuck that’s about?
He paused after medical issues and briefly played music then, and he then resumed. A few questions in after resuming he just said “who the hell wants to listen to questions” and “let’s listen to music” and proceeds to sound like he’s wrapping up but he just stands there noding on stage to music for 39 minutes
He also joked about the people who fainted so there’s that.
Maybe he thought he was at his Coachella rally and was trying to compete?
Thank
If I was having a medical emergency and someone started playing Ave Maria, my immediate thought would be that I’m dying then the wonder of who did “it” to me.
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