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USA is the edgy teen after moving out of the parents house (Europe) and finally doing stuff their own way. Not because it is practical, but because they feel rebellious.
Lol, This is probably the best explanation of America that I’ve ever heard.🤣👍🏾
Many of us are not from Europe
What year are you living in, 1951?
USA was colonized by europeans mostly, I believe ?
The Cajun were french Canadians
20% of the population in 1776 were slaves who came from Africa. There are more countries outside Europe
Not like the Europeans colonized those African countries at the time.
The Scramble for Africa happened after the USA was established as a country
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Oh, these were definitely not the people who decided how to handle/name/format stuff, sadly…
20% is a lot ! there are more countries that…? I think you forgot a word
Date Formats:
Aug 9, 20239 Aug, 20238/9/2023 US9/8/2023 GB2023/8/9Correct Date Formats:
9 AUG, Juche 112 ✅
2023-08-09
Only for files
1691881601
Best format.
%s*9 AUG, Duche 112✅️😉
Majority of the world uses YYYY-MM-DD. Day 1st makes no sense. If you need the month or year it should come 1st. You need to zoom into what you need not select from any number of months with the same day. That would be like putting time with seconds 1st.
Not really, most countries use YYYY-MM-DD to save documents, photos or archive papers.
DD-MM-YYYY is for daily usage.
DD/MM/YYYY is the best in my opinion
I agree with this because if you were to say the whole thing verbally, you generally start with the day, the month then the year.
“It is the 9th of August in the year of our Lord 2023.”
We wouldn’t in America in most cases. I’d say it’s August 9th 2023. I honestly feel like this is such a dumb argument to have because it doesn’t matter except for communication with people who use other methods. Now metric vs imperial makes way more sense to me because the metric system is just so much easier for mathematical conversions.
In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade—which is 1 percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. An amount of hydrogen weighing the same amount has exactly one mole of atoms in it. Whereas in the American system, the answer to ‘How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?’ is ‘Go fuck yourself,’ because you can’t directly relate any of those quantities.
I like how Europeans pretend they’re all scientific, but then still use seconds, minutes, and hours without thinking twice.
Lmao Europe is not the only place where they use metric (I’m not European).
Seconds are part of the metric system and are the base unit of time. Just because they didn’t define it initially doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist or makes sense. They use milliseconds and kiloseconds; minutes and hours are used for convenience but are not part of the SI
In the USA most people would say “august 9th”, not “the 9th of august”, which is one of the reasons mm/dd/yyyy is the standard format here
Which extrapolated, who the fuck would say “the September of 2024” and not “September, 2024” for example
This is actually often done when trying to be more eloquent or dramatic or add importance, like how Independence day is The 4th of July versus just saying Jily 4th.
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@rubythulhu @Kolanaki I would say this kind of topic is optional, and people are doing too much.
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Then use DD-MM-YYYY or any other character.
Okay but if you sort by name then the file:
08-09-2023.png
is after:
04-12-2023.png
Because everything would be sort after the day number.
Then get software that recognizes a simple format like that because that’s a nightmare.
DD?MM?YYYY
09.08.2023 (dd/mm/yyyy) anybody?
I like it for reading and using the date day to day
But yyy-mm-dd is best for sorting and archiving files
This
People rarely use them in real life, but ISO 8601 and RFC 3339 (both are almost identical) are the most natural ways of writing date and time. Just like how we write numbers, their components are written from left to right in the decreasing order of significance: yyyy-mm-ddTHH:MM:SS. I like it by default for precisely the reason you mentioned - sorting. It even helps quick visual comparisons.
It’s dd/MM/yyyy you nincompoop
Why would you put the day first?
Because it changes most often.
Why does that mean it should go first?
Because you are able to read the thing that changes most often first. It is more convinient to read from left to right.
ISO 8601 or nothing. Descending order of granularity, keep everything sorted as it should be!
My personal preference is DD-MM-AAAA, but as someone that works with lots of data from different formats and timezones… I have to agree with you…
YYYYMMDD and UTC should be the global default.
RFC 3339, because ISO is not free.
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ew ew ew no please no :'(
Oh my god, why would they do this
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Goddamn German memes invading everywhere.
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Last two are both dumb, YYYY-MM-DD or DD-MM-YYYY or go home
Yes I’m American
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The last two are the same thing though
The last one is ambiguous because it could be either august ninth or september eigth.
Can’t believe relevant xkcd hasn’t been posted.
I was unaware of this. But it uses the same logic as the British date format so I am okay with it.
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He’s making a pedantic joke. Lower case m is sometimes used to indicate minutes.
Albeit a weak one since many formats use lowercase m to indicate month. Such as programming languages like python & PHP. IBM & Microsoft standards also use lowercase m and so forth.
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Is this where someone posts the relevant xkcd about too many standards?
I swear, a lot of you would have no joy in life if you weren’t able to bitch about the stupidest shit.
If you it’s the stupidest shit then you never tried to figure out why you can’t log in to VPN for 2h just to realize password expired week ago but you looked at the date and thought you still have 3 weeks till expires
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Small things and stupid things are different
09/08/2023 (I’m an American who doesn’t care what everyone in my country uses if that “custom” is nonsense…)
Im a Canadian, and unfortunetely we use both formats, with no context.
Which is why written down or typed without a format prompt I use “12 Aug 2023”
Do you use metric? :)
I use Fahrenheit just because it’s a pain to get everything set to Celsius and other Americans don’t understand it. But I use grams, kilos, millilitres, kilometres, etc. Yes. And if someone asks me to guess the length of an object I will give centimetres, and refuse to translate to inches and their stupid fractions.
Yes. And if someone asks me to guess the length of an object I will give centimetres, and refuse to translate to inches and their stupid fractions.
Some proud neckbeard shit right here. “Fuck communicating effectively with people. They don’t even know I only use the metric system!”
But yeah, got em… I guess.
I kind of get it, it’s like language immersion. How do you easily describe anything besides the freezing point and boiling point of water in an objective way? The rest, you can point to and say “this weighs a kilo” ot “this holds a liter.” And if you don’t force people to use it, they’ll simply refuse. And we all carry handy unit conversion tools with us wherever we go these days, so if they don’t want to learn, they can easily translate it themselves.
So you use Fahrenheit because Americans don’t understand Celsius but you don’t convert to imperial for them if they don’t understand? That just seems inconsiderate as it’s really no trouble at all
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I see an brave! Inspire!
Reddit ass post
Date stamps are stupid, but they’re nowhere near as stupid as this attempt to criticize them
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Americans write the date the way we would say it. August 9th 2023.
9th of August, 2023
No need for the extra “of”
4th of July
That’s a holiday and an obvious exception. Most people don’t go around saying dates like that
Generally speaking you’re usually from 0 to 720 hours in a month: how many time in a year you have to remind people what month they are into vs. the single day?
Guy A: “Hey, what day is it?”
Guy B: “It’s Sunday, the 13th.”
Guy A: “Of…?” (gesturing to keep going)
Guy B: “Ah, right, we’re just 390 hours into August. You may have missed that.”
That’s in response to a poorly asked question.
"Hey what’s the date?
“August 13th”
Americans pick up weird habits and then insist that it’s the right way. How is August 9th any better than 9th of August when the 9th is a subunit of August and not the other way around?
Another good example is the use of the imperial system. I’ve heard Americans often declare that it’s a better system for manual use compared to the metric system. But the metric system has prefixes that differ consistently by 3 orders of magnitude, whereas the imperial system has rather arbitrary jumps between each successive unit. The metric system needs much less cognitive effort even for manual use.
I can understand that it’s a matter of habit for Americans. But it’s the lack of acceptance that there is a problem that leads to other problems like crashing a spacecraft onto Mars.
Wait, you mean the last 2 are, in all fact, the same, exact, thing?
Yes.
That’s what kills me about people who rag on Americans.
We order our dates the way we say them, and we use a temperature system is a great way to describe feeling heat.
I’ve got no defense for imperial measurements beyond scooping up a cup of flour is easier than dumping it on a scale.
But people spend more energy shitting on the cultural norms of Americans than anyone else (especially Europeans) and then spend a lot of time telling us we have no culture.
and we use a temperature system is a great way to describe feeling heat
You know if you really think about it for even the slightest amount of time this makes absolutely no fucking sense. I can imagine why you state this, but to not spoil the fun I’d love to hear it from you.
The fahrenheit scale was created as a base for human temperature. The guy fucked up his math though because 100°f was supposed to be average body temp.
Celsius is temperature based on water.
Kelvin is based on universal scale.
Fahrenheit is based on the human body.
I don’t see how intent is relevant, to someone using Celsius, 40 degrees is hot because they’re used to that, that’s the only thing that matters. Besides, when it comes to body temperature, Celsius is a lot closer than Fahrenheit. Not to mention “it’s freezing outside” in Celsius is actually sub zero, and not a number close to your body temperature as it is in Fahrenheit.
Fahrenheit based his scale on what he thought to be absolute zero (i.e. the coldest temperature he could produce in his lab with the tools of his time) and his body temperature, which he set to 12, because 12 was a convenient number and used in a lot of scales in his pre-metric time. He did realize though that this scale was impractical, and halved his degrees until they deemed sensible to him, resulting in the final degrees to be ⅛ of the first draft. 8 * 12 = 96, hence 96° F was his second fixed point.
Which is just senseless, as we know today, as the temperature of the human body fluctuates over time. If we took the original definition seriously, everybody would have their own Fahrenheit scale that would differ over time.
Fahrenheit is not based on body temperature, it is based on the temperature of a mixture of ice and salt and the body temperature of a certain individual, both in 1714. Who was, by the way, suffering from hypothermia.
9AUG2023
HOLY
Oh no! A country uses a different date format, the horror!
