• twistypencil@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        I’m not a stein fan, and I get the stein bashing because fuck Trump, so I only point this out because using this to bash her is not the most powerful argument you can make,because it’s thin evidence that would never hold up in court… but let’s bash her on actual things, I’m all for that.

        if you look up the details, you can easily find: Stein “attended at her own expense to spread a message of peace and diplomacy” and gave a speech in Moscow “in which she criticized the excessive militarism of both Vladimir Putin and U.S. leaders.”

        The Senate Intelligence Committee later investigated the trip and found no wrongdoing whatsoever.

        Speaking to The Intercept in 2017, she said the notion that it was an “intimate roundtable” was “mythology,” and that Putin and his associates “weren’t at the table for very long.” Stein said that “nobody introduced anybody to anybody” and that she “didn’t hear any words exchanged between English speakers and Russians” due to the lack of a translator.

        Stein said that Putin had appeared to make a speech and left immediately after. “Nobody cared to make introductions. This wasn’t intended to be a discussion of any sort,”

        Could be all lies, etc. but it’s cheap and not substantial evidence in any way. I mean, a picture at a dinner table doesn’t automatically mean anything, no matter how many strings you use to connect all the pictures in your CSI montage.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      People clap like seals when they see the “Jill Stein was seated with Putin” picture, but lose their fucking minds whenever someone posts

      And don’t you dare ask where Kamala’s getting her money.

      Inside Kamala Harris’ Reenergized Web of Silicon Valley Investors, Billionaires and Power Brokers

      You’re simply not allowed to talk about the congealing mass of neocons and techbros that surround the Democratic Party. Because that might hurt their electoral chances. And winning is literally all that matters, even if it means bringing in the exact same posse of crooks, hawks, and freaks that surrounded Trump during his first four years in office.