After a day and several replies from people. I’ve come to the conclusion that people here are ok with their party and leaders supporting genocide and they attack the questioners (instead of their party leaders) who criticize those who support genocide. Critical thinking is scarce here.

I’m shameful of humanity.

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    you have no reason not to vote for Harris except that you want people to pay attention to you.

    Yes. I want the Democrats to pay attention to me and change their policy. I’m asking why that is not the normal function of democracy.

    you are still not understanding that the US does not have the power over the Palestinian genocide you believe they have.

    Still at it then? This is why I gave you the paper. Me disagreeing with you about a conclusion is not equivalent to me not understanding. Whether America can influence Israel in this matter is not an established fact like the shape of the earth or 2+2=4. It’s an opinion. People disagreeing with you haven’t failed to understand something, they disagree.

    protests. letters to senators and other politicians. political parties and go talk to people in the real world.

    And why would politicians take any notice if we’re going to vote for them anyway?

    politicians are often influenced by popular actions.

    Yes, because they think they’ll lose/gain votes. But your advice has us eliminate that motive. They now can be assured of our votes no matter what policies they propose or implement.

    would you rather have Harris in the White House or Trump?

    False dichotomy. I’d rather have Harris with a stricter policy on arms sales to Israel. I believe that’s achievable. That you don’t is not a fact, it’s an opinion, I disagree with it, I don’t fail to understand it. Really, if you can’t grasp the basic distinction between theories and the facts on which they’re based then I don’t know how we can proceed.

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      “I want the Democrats to pay attention to me and change their policy”

      terrorizing the civil rights of others and threats against society isn’t going to give you the attention you want from who you want to pay attention.

      “i’m asking why that is not the normal function of democracy.”

      because selfishness and terror threats lose trust. if you’re willing to sacrifice the rights of everybody else to get what you want, your vote can’t be trusted.

      “They now can be assured of our votes no matter what policies they propose or implement.”

      nobody can be assured of you vote because selfishness and terror threats are inherently untrustworthy. If you’re willing to sacrifice the rights of everybody else to get what you want, your vote can’t be trusted.

      “False dichotomy”

      I used this word correctly, you copied it and used it for an incorrect example.

      Harris or Trump The 2024 US presidential election is not a false dichotomy.

      One of those two is going to win the presidential election.

      that is an actual dichotomy.

      “Really, if you can’t grasp the basic distinction between theories and the facts on which they’re based then I don’t know how we can proceed.”

      you sure don’t.

      I understand the difference vetween theory and practice, you are conflating them as you have mistaken each tree for a forest.

      You’re stuck in a fish bowl.