Its an OK game. I got it on sale and don’t regret the time spent playing it, but the controls are awkward and there wasn’t much nuance to the story. There appear to be lots of potential story-line elements based on your decisions, but it was too slow and cumbersome to be worth a replay for me.
By comparison, I quit Heavy Rain pretty early, I seem to recall walking around yelling for my child for an extended period of time and that was the last I ever played it. IMO, Detroit is a much better game than that.
It looks like Steam has it on sale for $12 at the moment, which is less than I paid for it. I played it one time through for 12 hours, so $1 per hour of entertainment isn’t terrible. Not a glowing endorsement, I guess.
it’s a story interspersed with quick time events, and the moral at the end is basically “racism bad”. the storytelling is fine, but it’s nothing revolutionary.
also you’d be giving money to david “in my games all women are whores” cage.
In fairness to David Cage, his response to those (and other) allegations was:
“I have never said or even thought such things. I fully understand people were shocked by seeing those words, and I am deeply sorry for the pain and confusion they have caused to women and the LGBTQIA+ community. The quotes are abhorrent, and they do not reflect my views, nor the views of anyone at Quantic Dream.”
Did he say it and/or believe it? I have no idea. But certainly something to think about before buying a Quantic Dream game.
I remembered something else just after I posted this- i’m surprised it didn’t come up in my first searches.
The other controversy was in Beyond: Two Souls. It was one of the first modern games to use motion capture for voice actors to get more realism. After release, people found that the devs had made a fully nude model of one of the characters. They never scanned the actor (Elliott Page) nude, but modeled what was missing. It doesn’t appear in normal gameplay, but was accessible in debug mode.
There’s a scene in the game where the character is taking a shower. The shower stall is glass, and the glass is frosted from around ankle height to neck height.
I haven’t played the game myself, just came across the scene on YouTube several years ago, so I don’t know how justifiable the choice of the scene is in the first place. At least, from a technical point of view, it makes sense to me that they modeled the full nude body so that the frosted glass would blur what we “see” in a realistic way. It’s a lot easier to model something and then have the glass blur it, instead of directly modelling the blurred version for example.
Personally I think most of the creep factor comes from the fact that this character is explicitly modeled after a live human being who presumably didn’t sign up for that.
Lol that’s absolutely not an excuse, or else we would see dozens of games with this happen every year. Somehow almost every game to every feature tastefully censored nude scenes managed to do so without modeling genitalia, but Beyond: Two Souls is an exception.
In a world where modeling costs money, studios are looking to spend less time modeling than they need to. Not more.
Is this game worth playing? I like adventures but Heavy Rain was a chore.
Its an OK game. I got it on sale and don’t regret the time spent playing it, but the controls are awkward and there wasn’t much nuance to the story. There appear to be lots of potential story-line elements based on your decisions, but it was too slow and cumbersome to be worth a replay for me.
By comparison, I quit Heavy Rain pretty early, I seem to recall walking around yelling for my child for an extended period of time and that was the last I ever played it. IMO, Detroit is a much better game than that.
It looks like Steam has it on sale for $12 at the moment, which is less than I paid for it. I played it one time through for 12 hours, so $1 per hour of entertainment isn’t terrible. Not a glowing endorsement, I guess.
JASON!! Thanks.
it’s a story interspersed with quick time events, and the moral at the end is basically “racism bad”. the storytelling is fine, but it’s nothing revolutionary.
also you’d be giving money to david “in my games all women are whores” cage.
Also, the man doesn’t know how to do effective allegories.
“Look, the robots all have to stand in the back of the bus and are treated badly! Really makes you think, hm?”
In fairness to David Cage, his response to those (and other) allegations was:
Did he say it and/or believe it? I have no idea. But certainly something to think about before buying a Quantic Dream game.
I remembered something else just after I posted this- i’m surprised it didn’t come up in my first searches.
The other controversy was in Beyond: Two Souls. It was one of the first modern games to use motion capture for voice actors to get more realism. After release, people found that the devs had made a fully nude model of one of the characters. They never scanned the actor (Elliott Page) nude, but modeled what was missing. It doesn’t appear in normal gameplay, but was accessible in debug mode.
Creepy as fuck.
There’s a scene in the game where the character is taking a shower. The shower stall is glass, and the glass is frosted from around ankle height to neck height.
I haven’t played the game myself, just came across the scene on YouTube several years ago, so I don’t know how justifiable the choice of the scene is in the first place. At least, from a technical point of view, it makes sense to me that they modeled the full nude body so that the frosted glass would blur what we “see” in a realistic way. It’s a lot easier to model something and then have the glass blur it, instead of directly modelling the blurred version for example.
Personally I think most of the creep factor comes from the fact that this character is explicitly modeled after a live human being who presumably didn’t sign up for that.
Lol that’s absolutely not an excuse, or else we would see dozens of games with this happen every year. Somehow almost every game to every feature tastefully censored nude scenes managed to do so without modeling genitalia, but Beyond: Two Souls is an exception.
In a world where modeling costs money, studios are looking to spend less time modeling than they need to. Not more.
it’s in the (french) court proceedings, so the lawyers certainly believe he said those things. https://stevivor.com/news/quantic-dream-doesnt-make-games-fags-cage-allegedly-says/ https://www.resetera.com/threads/inside-the-quantic-dream-vs-le-monde-mediapart-trial-following-the-2018-reports-im-not-under-oath-so-can-i-lie-verdict-on-july-8th.434522/