Farewell and fuck off
As a SimpleX user.
God damnit.
Infrastructure will always be used by evil and good. If it exists. Just like a road. Normal people use them as well as murderers.
If a good encryption chat software exists it will be used. It’s necessary for normal privacy and sensitive topics between people but those ones will also use it. Nothing to do about it.
Ywah, but it sucks when malicious actors use it enough to bring attention from authorities who will do eveeything they can to undermine everyone’s privacy.
Also extra sad when you realize they didnt care or investigate those nazis before, but will now claim that they cant do their work because muh encryption.
Like everything else, if it’s worth doing it’s probably worth self hosting.
I don’t really get either of these comments. No one should be using telegram for anything other than a discord clone, and of course the shady turds will gravitate to privacy-focused messaging apps. I mean presumably that’s why the turds chose telegram initially, they just fucked up the due diligence and thought telegram was secure because they credulously believed the founder dude who folded under state pressure.
It would be nice if the first publicity it got wasn’t for being the choice of Nazis. I don’t like that if I mention to a coworker that I use it, there’s going to be that question of “wait, is this guy secretly a white supremacist”.
Nobody did any due diligence… They heard the marketing and that it.
You are surprised that the darkweb chat client has Nazis on it?
“Darkweb”? I was under the impression that it means a messenger that is onion/i2p-only. Simplex, while having an easy Tor integration, is mostly used by clearnet.
That’s a good point to it tho. It means Simplex is simple enough for anyone, even telegram pogromists to use. Advanced stuff became user-friendly, so average folks can with some adjustment come to it too.
I don’t mean to imply anything, but this post was listed maybe one scroll away from the piracy community welcoming everyone to SimpleX. Unfortunate timing.
But certainly not coincidental
Amazing how we never get these headlines…
“PC gamers are fleeing windows to Linux because microshit is a creep”
Well most windows users aren’t using it to organize neonazis or sell drugs (which is at least half of telegrams users) so maybe that’s why
🤡 level understanding of the situation here
How are Windows users and neo nazis alike in your analogy?
There’s no analogy, because windows users are not fleeing.
I read it as a “wish for people to get fed up with windows” comment, and not a “windows users are nazis” comment.
Wow. I mean, Linux has a heavy fanbase here, but I’ve never seen someone shoehorn a discussion of Microsoft vs Linux into a thread about Nazis out of the blue.
Impressive.
It’s definitely off topic.
How does simplex compare to signal?
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Telegram wasn’t really ever an encrypted chat app. If it were, people wouldn’t need to be fleeing it.
Neo-nazis, or any kind of fascists, have no space anywhere. They can fuck off to the next platform, but they can’t run forever
Why are they moving from telegram?
researchers found that in the wake of the arrest of Telegram founder Pavel Durov and charges against leaders of the so-called Terrorgram Collective, dozens of extremist groups have moved to the app SimpleX Chat in recent weeks over fears that Telegram’s privacy policies expose them to being arrested.”
Telegram has been supplying US government with data on its users
https://www.404media.co/telegram-confirms-it-gave-u-s-user-data-to-the-cops/
Why not link the original source?
Was this article funded by a would-be surveillance state? If not, I wonder what David Gilbert’s headline will be when he learns that roads, telephones, postal services, and conference halls are also used by neo-nazis.
Sounds like a virus. Herpes SimpleX? Have fun with that.
I associate it more with a simplex mode for radio.
Different backgrounds will draw different conclusions. Being in the medical field and not ham radio (had to look up what you’ve mentioned) it would never have occurred to me.
I didn’t mean to offend. Nazi ideology can be like a virus and so is what I stated in my comment. A poorly made joke I guess.
Ah, and I am into radio) I don’t see the offense, as well as I don’t see the inherent evil here. The protocol wasn’t catering to such people (idk if there are even examples of a protocol being this - only platforms, like Gab, come to mind) and it’s just unfortunate it’s getting such associations.
