• werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
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    But you can’t pay a politician to fu…oh I guess you can just get a politician to do that too. Yeah 👍 agreed 💯.

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      Pretty much yeah. Dudes aren’t festooning their homes and cars with Kamala signs and hats. Blue colored hats haven’t become synonymous with one particular political group in a party either.

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      Were you not alive a couple months ago when the entirety of dem social media was desperately trying to convince the world a second Biden term was a good idea?

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        You mean a couple months ago when they begged him to stop running and then he did? Yeah, I remember well. The Democrats gave up an incumbent candidate, historically the biggest possible advantage a political party could have, because they knew he obviously was unfit for the task. It’s almost like they base their decisions on reality and common sense instead of fear-mongering bullshit and xenophobia, interesting…

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          They waited until practically the last second, and up until that last second you people were hounding every single person that called for Biden to keep his one term promise constantly saying he was firnfr office and obviously wasn’t too old or too ill or too unpopular. You don’t get to rewrite that history.

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            I think that’s more a testament to how unlikeable trump is that people would rather vote for a sentient ham sandwich than that decroded piece of crap.

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            Trump proved his was unfit during his first term, but yet he’s run twice with full support. And I could see him running a third if he fails now.

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            Idk if he’s firnfr office or if he’s covfefe office and idc. Regardless, he’s not running and no one is idolizing him 🤷‍♂️ Trying to say anyone on the left is more undeservedly worshipped than Trump is just downright hilarious.

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      “This applies to both sides” != “Both sides are the same”

      Money in politics is an issue on both sides. That does not mean both sides are the same.

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        Hurrdurr urr I think both sides worship their candidates as gods deserving full authority and immunity uuhhhh definitely not partisan

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          Damn, you sure got me, bud. I concede.
          Your intellect remains unmatched.

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            Tons of them, I would vote for him again if he ran. Problem?

            Speaking of, when the SCOTUS gave immunity for all official actions of the Presidency, Biden admonished them.

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      Realistically they don’t exist. But it messes with their narrative. They need to feel Superior. So they need to feel that the people who disagree with them must worship her or Trump. Because it certainly couldn’t be that they have bad takes. Or thay people have reasonable things to disagree with them on. They know in their own minds that they are absolutely 100% correct. And if you disagree with them. It doesn’t mean that you have anything about to say or a point. It just means to them that you are wrong.

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        Saying she’s a better choice than Joe or Trump is not idolizing. Take it from me, a coconut pilled internet brained phone banker.

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        Tbf, some people can have fun and this point that might look like pretending you’re as crazy for her as can be

        If I were asked, depending on the context I’d either say I’m coco for coconuts or fuck the DNC. It’s like a only we can talk shit thing because ideally we want them to improve (context: two-party system)

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        Exactly. Or complain about her at all anywhere, or say you wouldn’t vote for her or trump because of their support for genocide. You’ll have a ton of people jumping down your throat about how not voting for her is a vote for Trump and all this nonsense.

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          Yeah I mean all you do is make a equivalence between the two and say they are both bad so don’t vote for either and people think you are a fucking moron for thinking that. What gives? So what if the train is going to run over 1 person or 1000 people both are bad so either will do. Have to choose between the flu or AIDS and if you don’t choose you get AIDS? Both are bad so just take the AIDS. It’s simple logic and people have the audaciry to think you are a fucking idiot for thinking it. Fuck them man you got this! I believe in you! Now go get you some AIDS!

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              Hell yeah reject genocide so there can be even worse genocide enabled by the other guy! 1 perspn dying or 1000 people dying both bad so either one works!

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              I’m sure the affected peoples will thank you for taking a hard stance by checks notes not doing anything.

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                Well if you can vote to support the murder of children en mass then great for you man. I can’t.

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                  Well I was going to write about how not participating doesnt automatically absolve you of the responsibility of your actions, but according to another one of your comments you don’t even live in America. So kindly, take your opinions and keep them to yourself while those who do live in the place we are having a conversation about try to make something of the terrible situation we are in.

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            Oh fuck off, I’m not even American. I’m not voting in your stupid countries election. Y’all see this shit? See what I mean?

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          You’ll have a ton of people jumping down your throat about how not voting for her is a vote for Trump and all this nonsense

          I’m just going to add here, that when I’m indicating this kind of thing what I’m hoping for folks to get out of it is how broken our first past the pole system is.

          Because of that system, yeah, 3rd party candidates are tossing your vote away, that’s how the system is created. I didn’t make it, that’s just how it works. It’s also why the hard nationalist group usurped the party of small government. There’s a realization that a realistic third party isn’t possible, especially with how hard the two majority parties prevent 3rd parties from having an equal seat at the table going into elections. So the smarter groups have realized that if you can’t effectively make a 3rd party, just take over an already existing one. You can also see that with socialist and the Democrats intermixing. We keep excusing it by indicating “shades” of a color, like deep blue Democrats, etc.

          There’s layers to the “voting 3rd party is tossing you vote away”. You aren’t at fault here for a desire to vote 3rd party, but if the only thing you take away when someone tells you that is “you’re worthless for tossing your vote in the trash” you’re kind of missing the point.

          Our system is built a particular way and it’s wrong to pretend it isn’t. That 3rd parties are viable choices or actual reflections of non-mainstream political agenda, they aren’t and our tectonic sized two parties are mostly the reason for that. I’m not going to tell you to vote for whoever, all I ask for anyone is to see the problem and know voting 3rd party isn’t, strictly, going to fix it. If we look at the US State of Maine, you can see, that there is actual change and that we can have it if we demand it, no need for hard bordered in 3rd parties to enact it.

          I’m not angry at anyone who says they are voting 3rd party, you do you is my biggest jam. But we’ve got to see the problem before we can address the problem, and then we need to effectively address the problem. Which means, yeah, we are wholly reliant on something that sounds impossible. For one of the two parties to get into power and then vote to make changes that could potentially dilute their power. I know that’s asking for a big leap of faith there, it is possible. But it isn’t possible if we’re just sticking our heads into the sand.