No one should be idolizing politicians. They work for their constituents.
It’s one thing to buy a shirt or a cap, it’s another to make it part of your identity.
Even shirts and caps are questionable. I’ll make an exception for Obama because that was historic and his shit was actually cool.
But all the rest of them, donate if you want, but wearing Harris or Trump in public is just cringe.
On the one hand, strippers want you to give them your money because that’s why they’re there.
On the other, it’s weird to pretend strippers aren’t real people with feelings who want to like and be liked in turn, just as much as anyone else.
The cynical “Don’t idolize your politicians” line doesn’t teach people to read the tea leaves and pick better leadership. It just teaches them to throw up your hands and assume everyone is the same.
At some level, you need to recognize strippers and politicians alike as complex humans with both material desires and higher ideals.
Recognizing these desires and ideals helps you know who is worth your time and investment.
The cynical “Don’t idolize your politicians” line doesn’t teach people to read the tea leaves and pick better leadership. It just teaches them to throw up your hands and assume everyone is the same.
Saying all politicians are the same just rewards the worst politicians because it means they face no electoral penalty for their failings, and the better ones gain no electoral advantage from not stooping to those lows…
“This applies to both sides” How very brave of you to call out the people who drive around with Harris trucks to Harris parties decked out in their Harris jackets and hats, trading AI generated pictures of sexy Harris.
You know, those things that are real and really happen.
Look dingbat, calling Trump and his ilk “weird” is not idolizing their opponents, it’s simply calling a spade a spade. If you’re too cowardly to stand up for what you believe in, don’t think trying to slip in a picture of a kitchen magnet is going to make it any better.
You could take this from the point of view that if people feel they are being attacked on their views they become defensive which makes a change in beliefs impossible.
Do you just want to smear shit on these people, or do you want to affect change?
The world has chosen smear shit.
How very brave of you to call out the people who drive around with Harris trucks to Harris parties decked out in their Harris jackets and hats, trading AI generated pictures of sexy Harris.
KHive really did this shit back in 2020, though.
Also, consider the case of Eric Adams, a man who was constantly self-promoting and a serial liar and grifter, who is now indicted on a litany of charges all stemming from his Style-Over-Substance administrative practice.
calling Trump and his ilk “weird” is not idolizing their opponents, it’s simply calling a spade a spade
Kamala is also a Weird Politician. She talks weird. She believes weird things. She supports weird policies in order to appease a conflicting morass of regional interests. She’s awkward and insincere and frighteningly nationalistic. Because that’s what running for high office requires.
Practically everyone running for high office is. You have to be weird to think you should be President. It’s a weird thing to think. Delusional and megalomaniacal, given the powers of the office and the history of its occupants.
If you’re too cowardly to stand up for what you believe in
If people say what they sincerely believe, they risk saying things that are unpopular. You can’t run in a district of tens of millions of people (as a California AG or Ohio Senator must) and sound remotely unpopular. Your opposition will eat you alive.
So you end up with this phony caricature of a personality, making blith naive statements that only sound good superficially.
You come across as fake and weird because authentic and normal people won’t be popular enough to win an election.
I’m not sure if this is a “both sides” spiel or a “I hate politics because I’m really pretty conservative but know my actual positions are too unpopular to actually advocate in liberal America” take.
I’m not sure if this is a “both sides”
This is a strategy employed by politicians to juice participation in their cohort. Turning the campaign into a consumer brand is not unique to the Republican Party. It’s also not historically very successful.
my actual positions are too unpopular
Candidate One: “If you like ice cream, you can eat it! I’m not here to tell you what to do.”
Candidate Two: “Fresh vegetables are an important part of a diet. We need to make sure everyone has access to good nutrition, which is why the government should spend money to give people broccoli.”
Who has the better policy? Who has the more popular opinion?
No one idolized Harris. Trump is like a Messiah.
K-hive proves you wrong.
A miniscule tiny handful of people doesn’t count. There is a total K-hive number of Maga cult in every big city. Not even in the same ballpark.
So you at least admit it’s a problem on both sides, you’re just blind to scale. You’re better than most Dems this election cycle at least.
It’s not a problem because some small group of people online who are idolizing Kamala Harris aren’t going to turn violent and start a riot if she loses.
Yeah Trump fans didn’t start out that way either.
Yes, they did.
No they didn’t. They weren’t like this ten years ago.
Look, I’m not trying to cause a stink here, I just don’t understand what you’re getting at. Are you implying that the amount of Kamala stans is comparable to the amount of Trump stans? Or are you saying that because you can find at least one zealot for each party, this does technically apply to both parties?
Either you’re sealioning or you’re purposefully misunderstanding, in either case either hope when Harris either loses or proves she’s more right wing than bush, you get deprogrammed and join us again.
“this applies to both sides” -🤓
Kamala is many things (most of them bad), a cult leader isn’t one of them. Im all for dunking on Liberals (im a leftist), but that is just factually untrue.
Mr. Both sides guy. 🙄
Not really. Democrats “idolized” their president so much they basically forced him out of the race for being too old. This applies to one side: Republicans.
He should of never been allowed to run. Most people saw him losing his ability to govern coming.
Who, do you propose, would disallow him to run?
The dnc who made him the only candidate by threatening to withdraw all funding and kick out of the party everyone that was running against him.
The vast majority of sitting presidents run completely unopposed by their own party for re-election to a second term.
I was talking about the first time, though yes we should have had a choice this election as well.
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It is amazing how racist you people are and openly accept being, all because someone with a lot more money than you said a race is bad. In any case I hope you and all conservatives like you understand what you lose when you win.
incredible case of the comments proving the OP right, very well done everyone
“I don’t think any politician is above criticism.”
“Yeah sounds good.”
“Including yours.”
“NOW WAIT A MINUTE”
Not really. I don’t idolize ANY politicians and am happy to criticize even those I vote for when I think they aren’t doing it right. No Dem politician is selling $100k watches etc. because Dems won’t buy them.
Apparently, Trump is donating a bridge to all his ultra-platinum preferred choice diamond club voters. If I didn’t dump all my money in Trump’s amazing social media project (some say the best social media company ever), I’d be first up!
Go home Ivan or Vlad, whoever you are, you’re drunk.
Man you guys can’t help but prove their point.
You cant help but spout fallacies
They always do. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Does it apply to both sides though, really?
But Obama told me he really REALLY liked me!
both sides
lmao, there are only two sides. Of course. Just Democrats and Republicans. Nobody else. Bernie Sanders doesn’t even exist.
Maybe you should save this for the day after the election friend. People being delusional about how good Kamala will be is actually really good for us strategically at the moment.
But it’s only a problem on one side.
Pretty much yeah. Dudes aren’t festooning their homes and cars with Kamala signs and hats. Blue colored hats haven’t become synonymous with one particular political group in a party either.
Were you not alive a couple months ago when the entirety of dem social media was desperately trying to convince the world a second Biden term was a good idea?
You mean a couple months ago when they begged him to stop running and then he did? Yeah, I remember well. The Democrats gave up an incumbent candidate, historically the biggest possible advantage a political party could have, because they knew he obviously was unfit for the task. It’s almost like they base their decisions on reality and common sense instead of fear-mongering bullshit and xenophobia, interesting…
They waited until practically the last second, and up until that last second you people were hounding every single person that called for Biden to keep his one term promise constantly saying he was firnfr office and obviously wasn’t too old or too ill or too unpopular. You don’t get to rewrite that history.
Did you also not read all the posts leading up to that on how fucked we were with Biden as the candidate? Nobody was idolizing him.
That was the point I was making, thanks.
And those posts were often at the top of the upvotes, so what are you complaining about?
They really weren’t. You’re misremembering again so you’d be on the right side of history, like clinton voters that totally didn’t rally against Sanders voters.
It’s not
How is that idolizing him? That’s being strategic and fighting against Trump winning the election. There wasn’t a massive cult movement of people wearing Biden hats and decorating their pickup trucks with 100s of Biden stickers. Biden doesn’t have a personality cult. A lot of people who voted and would have voted for him don’t actually really like him. Still, they realize the importance of not letting Trump win.
You’re missing the point. Good attempt trying to play “BuT bOtH SiDeS” when it’s the most clear and obvious thing that idolizing a candidate is a largely problem on just one side.
Trump proved his was unfit during his first term, but yet he’s run twice with full support. And I could see him running a third if he fails now.
That’s nice dear, we were talking about Biden. Whabtaboutism is popular amongst you conservatives, I know, but do try to be on track.
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I think that’s more a testament to how unlikeable trump is that people would rather vote for a sentient ham sandwich than that decroded piece of crap.
Idk if he’s firnfr office or if he’s covfefe office and idc. Regardless, he’s not running and no one is idolizing him 🤷♂️ Trying to say anyone on the left is more undeservedly worshipped than Trump is just downright hilarious.
They clearly don’t want to remember that, judging by your downvotes
Because no one was idolizing him, it was worry about who would run instead so late in the process. That isn’t idolizing, that is practicality and concern.
I was one of the people very concerned. I am so very glad to be wrong.
