Mike Lindell, the controversial founder of MyPillow and vocal ally to Donald Trump, is claiming ignorance over the neo-Nazi symbolism in his pillow prices.

Lindell’s pillow company, which he founded in 2009, is currently offering customers the “Standard Classic MyPillow” for $14.88 reduced from $49.98.

But the discount has got critics pointing out a popular neo-Nazi symbol lurking behind the price.

The numbers 14 and 88 are two popular white supremacist numeric symbols, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

The first is a nod to the “14 words” slogan, “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children,” coined by David Lane – a member of the white supremacist terrorist group known as The Order.

Meanwhile, 88 is a common code meaning “Heil Hitler”, because H is the eighth letter in the alphabet.

      • Samvega
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        math that

        I’m sad that you Englished that.

        • pyre@lemmy.world
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          Shakespeare verbed nouns all the time. Language should be enjoyed, not bound.

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            Yes, you can enjoy language by making it shit. I’ll be dead eventually, so I’ll stop caring.

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              you can enjoy language by making it shit.

              Language, especially the English language, has been changing since its inception. Every generation of youth is another generation that uses new words, abandons old words, changes the meaning and/or pronunciation of recognized words, and so on. It’s the nature of a living language - its usage adapts through time.

              It’s crucial to remember that just because something is “different” from what you’re used to, that doesn’t make it “worse.”

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                Because I’m speaking the English I learned as a child, and I wasn’t alive then.

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                  but how can you stomach this disgusting, bastardized version that barely resembles the original language? surely as someone who cares about the language so much, you would make an effort to speak proper English, not this enshittified version.

                  • InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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                    Because everything I was born with, country, language, system of measurements, was obviously the best, as evidenced by the fact that I was born with it.

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                    Thanks for your concern, I’ll file it with the other times strangers have tried to insult me but have been terrible at it.

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              Just learn and speak Latin or Klingon or something. Those are much less likely to change.

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                True, languages change through use.

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      To be fair, I see all kinds of $14.88 or $7.86 or other random prices at Walmart. Problem is, I know a person didn’t necessarily set those prices because it’s every product, seemingly at random.

      One dude decides what His Pillow costs, and he had to have chosen $14.88 for a reason. Maybe not because he’s a Nazi sympathizer, but maybe just to get in the headlines again. Either way, he knew the connection and what would happen, which is sell a bunch of pillows.

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        The prices at Walmart aren’t random. The cents portion indicates things like limited buy, no longer stocking, temporary sale, etc. It has been over a decade since I’ve worked retail, buy they are indicators for employees.

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          Wait can you explain more? I’ve never heard of that, feel like I’m asking for a dirty trade secret

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            This is only for discounted items, not regular priced items. There are a couple of different methods that can be used, but I’ll use the .8 that is being discussed. Basically, they will intentially price certain types of sale items and have all the prices of that type end the same way. So xx.89 indicates a regularly stocked item that is on sale, xx.88 indicates an item the store will no longer carry, xx.87 indicates an item that is not usually stocked and can not be ordered again, etc. This is just an example. The assigned meanings may be different, it has been a long time.

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              Gotcha, thank you! I’m gonna start paying attention for it and see if I can figure it out

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        but maybe just to get in the headlines again…

        …because he knew it is a Nazi dog whistle.

        So he’s either a Nazi, or he knows enough about Nazis to know how to appeal directly to them, and is happy to do so for publicity (so, an enthusiastic collaborator with Nazis at the very fucking least).

        You really should examine with yourself why you feel the need to jump to the defence of a Nazi.

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          You basically paraphrased what I said. Maybe I’m not saying it in a way you parse as unsympathetic, but I’m definitely not defending Pillow Man. Most people seem to get that, or else I’d be absolutely demolished by negative votes.

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      Crazy thing is he has to give a 70.23% discount for people to even think about buying a pillow

      50 dollars for the world’s best pillow is a steal

      Something you use every night that can actually help with sleep and health. You shouldn’t be skimping on your pillow.