Contributing to the strugglesession by adding “oh yeah, then what happened to the owners of Foxconn?” and immediately doubling down when people point out that Foxconn is a Taiwanese company by saying “oh I thought Taiwan was part of China”
AmeriKKKa doesn’t have a left in its political system, only right and far right. Anywhere else in the world, liberalism is correctly viewed as the capital-serving, people-maiming right-wing ideology it is. Give it less than a decade and the GOP will have made “child labor in sawmills, mines and slaughterhouses is cool and good, actually” a bipartisan stance, just as they have normalized torture at blacksites, dronestriking civilians abroad, unprecedented mass surveilance on a scale never before known to man and internment camps on the border. You liberals have accepted all of these as the new status quo, you will do the same with child labor, as is evidenced by the fact that there is zero pushback against this from Democrats on the federal level. They’re just waiting until people get used to the latest atrocity, like they always do.
they have to check with the senate parliamentarian to see if such a thing can be proposed during this phase of the moon, or if acting to quickly to prevent children from being maimed by bosses for money would violate norms and rules. our government is far too complex of a machine to do anything quickly, except send several billion dollars of cluster bombs anywhere on the planet in 36 hours.
i’m sure someone is working on a subsidized loan so that the kid can purchase a new hand using his HSA and that he loan will be forgiven if he starts a small business in an underserved community and maintains operations for 3 years.
Well, no, but his mom did set up a gofundme to aquire him a hook as he is no longer able to pull himself up by his boot straps. At present the total sits at $4.20 one of his friends put in there. He will be able to collect disability provided he participates in all degrading means tests and doesn’t make too much supplementary income. We wouldn’t want him living too well after all.
What are they advocating for? Executing executives who exploit and kill workers? Or executing random homeless people because they are stinky? Seems like a very distinct difference here
More that it wouldn’t happen. There’d be a criminal trial and actually serious fines, but I doubt execution would be on the table. That’s generally reserved for stuff like murder, treason, and schnif so on.
I’m not used to the federation thing yet, I saw this comment and assumed sarcasm, forgot there were dipshits out there that actually think this and that Adrian Zenz is a “reliable source”.
I was reading this reply chain and was like, “Please don’t use Wikipedia as a source please don’t use Wikipedia as a source please don’t use Wikipedia as a source” and-
Damn dude. 5 sources for your second claim but every single one of them references Adrian Zenz. So really it’s only one source. One source that is already debunked.
Wait, I’m supposed to actually read the sources I provide? I thought I could just copy and paste links I found on Wikipedia to automatically win the argument.
Nobody in the world other than libs and Adrian Zenz state there’s a Uyghur genocide. Not a single country (least of all Muslim countries) and not even the UN.
Even Adrian Zenz never said it was a genocide, that was invented whole cloth by Reddit libs like yourself.
stop. read the sources you send before sending them. all of ur claims are backed by Adrian Zenz, a fascist propagandist who has been to China once 15 years ago and claims to know what is currently happening in China. once you read the links you sent, refer to our Posting Policy Bulletin for information on posting here
Literally every single source of the Uyghur genocide goes back to a single study conducted by Adrian Zenz done on a sample size of 8 people from the same village “how many people do you know are in re-education camps”, that % is extrapolated to the entire population of Xinjiang to get the estimates of incarceration, then it was published by Radio Free Asia. The millions of people in camps thing was different outlets reporting a singular article done by one guy named Adrian Zenz. Literally look at any article and look into it and they trace back to Radio Free Asia or Zenz.
You can actually go to the Wikipedia article you linked, go to sources, go to the sources’ sources and it traces back to Adrian Zenz interviewing 8 people.
In particular, forced abortions and sterilizations
Oh boy you should probably not look up what the US is doing in the concentration camps it keeps on its border then. Something we have real evidence of not made up nonsense lmao
Every single source you linked literally refers to Adrian Zenz as their source.
The guy who is a senior fellow at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation.
The foundation that was authorised by the US Congress in 1993.
You’re quoting news sources quoting a once-removed US government employee on their political and economic rival. This is why people are dunking on you.
Have you ever heard of Manufacturing Consent, btw?
Linking wikipedia just screams out that you don’t actually examine your own sources of info that you already agree with. This is made obvious as shit by the fact that you linked 5 different sources that all go back to Zenz lmao
In a proper country like China the business owners would be in front of a firing squad by now
Edit: what the fuck did I just start
Contributing to the strugglesession by adding “oh yeah, then what happened to the owners of Foxconn?” and immediately doubling down when people point out that Foxconn is a Taiwanese company by saying “oh I thought Taiwan was part of China”
Lol, don’t know where to start with your comment
You understand it’s the right pushing for this, not the left, correct?
You understand you’re not on the left, right?
You understand you have no idea what my beliefs are, right?
Sure go on then, what are your beliefs around business owners who operate plants where teenagers lose their hands?
You’ve already demonstrated such thorough ignorance about basic politics that I do in fact know for sure you’re not a leftist.
AmeriKKKa doesn’t have a left in its political system, only right and far right. Anywhere else in the world, liberalism is correctly viewed as the capital-serving, people-maiming right-wing ideology it is. Give it less than a decade and the GOP will have made “child labor in sawmills, mines and slaughterhouses is cool and good, actually” a bipartisan stance, just as they have normalized torture at blacksites, dronestriking civilians abroad, unprecedented mass surveilance on a scale never before known to man and internment camps on the border. You liberals have accepted all of these as the new status quo, you will do the same with child labor, as is evidenced by the fact that there is zero pushback against this from Democrats on the federal level. They’re just waiting until people get used to the latest atrocity, like they always do.
Executive order banning all forms of child labor when?
they have to check with the senate parliamentarian to see if such a thing can be proposed during this phase of the moon, or if acting to quickly to prevent children from being maimed by bosses for money would violate norms and rules. our government is far too complex of a machine to do anything quickly, except send several billion dollars of cluster bombs anywhere on the planet in 36 hours.
i’m sure someone is working on a subsidized loan so that the kid can purchase a new hand using his HSA and that he loan will be forgiven if he starts a small business in an underserved community and maintains operations for 3 years.
Well, no, but his mom did set up a gofundme to aquire him a hook as he is no longer able to pull himself up by his boot straps. At present the total sits at $4.20 one of his friends put in there. He will be able to collect disability provided he participates in all degrading means tests and doesn’t make too much supplementary income. We wouldn’t want him living too well after all.
What are they advocating for? Executing executives who exploit and kill workers? Or executing random homeless people because they are stinky? Seems like a very distinct difference here
Oh it’s like the good old days of the sub
A bit too uncivil for your tastes? Please elaborate.
More that it wouldn’t happen. There’d be a criminal trial and actually serious fines, but I doubt execution would be on the table. That’s generally reserved for stuff like murder, treason, and schnif so on.
They executed people who killed babies with leaded milk a while ago, but those guys were also responsible for death.
The more I learn about China the more I like it
Wait until you learn what the Soviets achieved and you’ll be as miserable as the rest of us
2008 Chinese milk scandal
(the milk was contaminated with melamine, not lead. killed six infants and harmed many more)
You can start with “damn u right”
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Bold move, praising a genocidal dictatorship.
Hey remember when China killed 4.5 million Muslims after 9/11 and no one went to prison
No of course you don’t, cause you’re a shitlib
I’m not used to the federation thing yet, I saw this comment and assumed sarcasm, forgot there were dipshits out there that actually think this and that Adrian Zenz is a “reliable source”.
Wait, you mean China? Have you even read the party planning bulletin?
https://hexbear.net/PPB
I didn’t see anybody praising America?
China isn’t run by one person lol
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Murder is not required to commit genocide, because it is defined as destruction of a people. In particular, forced abortions and sterilizations can qualify as genocide, even though no-one is murdered.
I didn’t say they are targeting only one group, but at least one group that they are targeting is the Uyghurs.
Genocide is when you have ~17,000 mosques, and the more mosques you have the more genocidal it is
I was reading this reply chain and was like, “Please don’t use Wikipedia as a source please don’t use Wikipedia as a source please don’t use Wikipedia as a source” and-
That’s a weird way to spell “I am too incompetent to click on the links to secondary sources for what I want vetted”, but here you go.
First claim I made: https://www.un.org/ar/preventgenocide/adviser/pdf/osapg_analysis_framework.pdf
Second claim: https://apnews.com/article/269b3de1af34e17c1941a514f78d764c
https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/china-forces-birth-control-uighurs-suppress-population
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22311356/china-uyghur-birthrate-sterilization-genocide
https://www.dw.com/en/china-uighur-women-reportedly-sterilized-in-attempt-to-suppress-population/a-54018051
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713
Damn dude. 5 sources for your second claim but every single one of them references Adrian Zenz. So really it’s only one source. One source that is already debunked.
Wait, I’m supposed to actually read the sources I provide? I thought I could just copy and paste links I found on Wikipedia to automatically win the argument.
Nobody in the world other than libs and Adrian Zenz state there’s a Uyghur genocide. Not a single country (least of all Muslim countries) and not even the UN.
Even Adrian Zenz never said it was a genocide, that was invented whole cloth by Reddit libs like yourself.
Why are you bringing up some random German dude? No one cares.
“Why are you bringing up the guy I brought up as a source for my claims” lmao dumbass
You’re breathtakingly illiterate.
stop. read the sources you send before sending them. all of ur claims are backed by Adrian Zenz, a fascist propagandist who has been to China once 15 years ago and claims to know what is currently happening in China. once you read the links you sent, refer to our Posting Policy Bulletin for information on posting here
Says the person who can’t read their own sources.
Literally every single source of the Uyghur genocide goes back to a single study conducted by Adrian Zenz done on a sample size of 8 people from the same village “how many people do you know are in re-education camps”, that % is extrapolated to the entire population of Xinjiang to get the estimates of incarceration, then it was published by Radio Free Asia. The millions of people in camps thing was different outlets reporting a singular article done by one guy named Adrian Zenz. Literally look at any article and look into it and they trace back to Radio Free Asia or Zenz.
You can actually go to the Wikipedia article you linked, go to sources, go to the sources’ sources and it traces back to Adrian Zenz interviewing 8 people.
“Bold statements for someone who didn’t read a single linked source.”
“Who is this Adrian Zenz guy that was cited by name in every single source I linked?”
Oh boy you should probably not look up what the US is doing in the concentration camps it keeps on its border then. Something we have real evidence of not made up nonsense lmao
Based on percent of total population, Uyghurs are the second fastest growing ethnic group in all of China. Who are they second to? Tibetans.
If you think China is doing genocide via birth control, remind me not to get birth control from China
Just giant funnels instead of condoms
You could have just said “actually I have no idea what I’m talking about” instead of linking wikipedia
That’s a weird way to spell “I am too incompetent to click on the links to secondary sources for what I want vetted”, but here you go.
First claim I made: https://www.un.org/ar/preventgenocide/adviser/pdf/osapg_analysis_framework.pdf
Second claim: https://apnews.com/article/269b3de1af34e17c1941a514f78d764c
https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/china-forces-birth-control-uighurs-suppress-population
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22311356/china-uyghur-birthrate-sterilization-genocide
https://www.dw.com/en/china-uighur-women-reportedly-sterilized-in-attempt-to-suppress-population/a-54018051
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713
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Every single source you linked literally refers to Adrian Zenz as their source.
The guy who is a senior fellow at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation.
The foundation that was authorised by the US Congress in 1993.
You’re quoting news sources quoting a once-removed US government employee on their political and economic rival. This is why people are dunking on you.
Have you ever heard of Manufacturing Consent, btw?
Linking wikipedia just screams out that you don’t actually examine your own sources of info that you already agree with. This is made obvious as shit by the fact that you linked 5 different sources that all go back to Zenz lmao