• Harrison [He/Him]@ttrpg.network
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      It’s always funny seeing people post that image without the context that Palestine declared war on Israel alongside all its neighbours and attempted to push the Israeli population into the sea.

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        And Ukraine kept shelling civilians in Donetsk despite signing Minsk 2.

        And that’s not even taking into account that Israel has continued to annex new land despite it not being a war.

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            Ending the existence of an illegitimate country built on stolen land has nothing to do with genocide. You’re doing the fascist ethnostate thing where you act like a state and its people are the same thing. States come and go, people remain, the ending of a state has nothing to do with harming people.

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                Ending the Israeli state is not ending the people. Fuck off. 21% of the “Israeli people” are arab you fucking racist shit, but you’re not including them when you say “Israeli” are you? No.

                I absolutely will not apologise for calling you racist. Whether you know this fact and are saying this shit knowingly or whether you’re just utterly oblivious to what the conditions are in Israel doesn’t matter. Oblivious racism is still racism.

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                    What the fuck do you think happens when a country ends? The people magically disappear? Jesus fucking christ.

                    When we communists successfully end america do you also think we’re aiming to perform unlimited genocide on the population? Are you out of your mind? Am I as a UK resident communist trying to murder the population of the UK by ending the British state?

                    Fuck me liberals are completely politically illiterate. Please read some god damn books instead of white billionaire-owned media and reddit comment sections.

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              And I suppose they managed this even before Israel came into existence? They have always been like this. The original leaders of the Palestinian government in the Arab-Israeli war were largely fascist anti-communist agitators.

              It might very generously be Israel’s fault that they’re still like this, but that does not change the reality of the situation.

              • It might very generously be Israel’s fault that they’re still like this

                That is what I’m saying and that is what matters.

                but that does not change the reality of the situation.

                The reality is that Israel is a settler colonial ethnostate genociding Palestinians and it shouldn’t exist.

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                  Sure, it shouldn’t have been created, but it’s here now, and the majority of people living in it were born there. We can’t make it go away by wishful thinking.

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        “The indigenous americans shouldn’t have fought back against the settlers if they didn’t want to get exterminated.”