• return2ozma@lemmy.worldOP
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    I fucking love her!

    Edit: Chappell Roan is donating proceeds to Palestine and told the Whitehouse to fuck off when they tried to pink-wash her.

    She’s extremely political and this quote is cherry picked out of context.

    She’s criticizing the engine of celebrity endorsement and asking us to engage directly.

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      Which quote is cherry picked? Honestly curious

      I’m quite disappointed in her both-sidesism comments. Maybe that approach is defensible in “normal” times, but not when one candidate/party is fascist, authoritarian, anti-democracy, anti-women’s rights, anti-trans, anti-LGBTQ+, anti-people of color.

      My feeling is that Chappell is effectively supporting that party by not taking a more vocal stand against them, particularly when she has the ability to influence so many young voters whose lives will be impacted for decades by what the extreme right has done in this country, and will further try to do if they win the White House (and/or Congress) again.

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          I don’t see how the full quote really changes anything.

          I fully agree with her position that folks she be informed and engaged in their local politics.

          Fully agree with her that people should use critical thinking skills.

          But saying both sides have the same amount of problems is a ridiculous false equivalency, and directly threatens the very people she supports. One side is going to make life a living hell (if not outright cause deaths - see: abortion rights for an example) for LGTBQ+ people, for women, and for people of color. There’s no “both sides” argument here.

          She’s within her right to call out the Left for specific issues she disagrees on, but she loses credibility for effectively saying one side is not better than the other in all the areas I’ve described

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            The Dems are literally ecstatic over Dick Cheney and other Republicans supporting Kamala. Chappell is an outspoken lesbian and drag queen. Her drag mother is one of the top RuPaul’s Drag Race winners.

            Here’s another drag queen’s take on it…

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              I’m not following what point you’re trying to make here.

              Kamala Harris’ team is going to make known any and all Republicans who support her in an effort to try and convince Independents and Republicans who don’t like Trump to get out on Election Day and vote for her, particularly in swing states. That’s just smart politicking to try and beat Trump.

              I would guess the average Democratic voter hates Dick Cheney but understands that when people as awful as Liz or Dick Cheney actually endorse Harris publicly, it is a clear indication just how dangerousTrump and MAGA really are.

              Ona daily basis, Trump and Vance make no attempt to hide their hatred of women, drag queens, gays, lwsnians, immigrants, people of color, etc. While Harris and the Dems defend those groups publicly, legally and politically.

              Whether the Left is perfect or not is not the point. MAGA would like to see Chappel Roan censored, disempowered, and possibly imprisoned.

              I’m not calling Chapell a centrist, I’m saying she being foolish and failing to exercise her influence. She couldn’t instead say “I don’t disagree with Harris on A, B, C, but I support her candidacy because of basic human rights, and here’s what I would like her to commit to”.

              Instead, she’s failing to help her fans understand what’s at stake here, and they may sit on the sidelines come election day

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              And to keep those Republican votes theyve just won they will continue to shift harder to the right to keep them.

              Watching liberals cheer on all these Republican endorsements is fuckiing insane. They are cheering in their own party becoming the dominant party for conservatives in the country.

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        clearly this alludes to vote dilution by “voting small” meaning left vote gets fragmented. The very sad part is - she is right and people SHOULD vote FOR something rather than against, but system is stacked for political duopoly with a slight preference to the right. In other words it not pragmatic to “vote small” under system where small get ignored and society gets polarized to the point of always voting against. What she should be pushing for is a change of a system, otherwise communities she cares for so much are going to remain political hostages of the left because the right found “the other” they can rally against in them. There are only two rational decisions: remain under current system and support whatever big entity is further to the left or stage a revolution/rebellion forcing system change to allow everyone to “vote small”. Silence is not working.