In ceremony in Kake, military acknowledges bombardment of village that destroyed it and led to many deaths
In a ceremony Saturday afternoon, the US navy apologized for firing upon and torching the Alaska Native village of Kake in 1869.
Surrounded by tribal Chilkat weavings, historic photographs and other Lingít artwork in the Kake elementary and high school gymnasium, R Adm Mark B Sucato expressed the military’s regret, in the first of two apologies planned by the military for bombardments of Alaska Native communities in the late 1800s.
“This has been 155 years in the making,” said Joel Jackson, the president of the Organized Village of Kake, of the apology to the Lingít (often known as the Tlingit) people. “It’s becoming real because we never talked about it and now we are.”
The event also included remarks from other tribal leaders and elders, a blessing from the tribe and a navy chaplain, and performances by the local Native Ḵéex’ Ḵwáan Dancers and the navy band.
A second ceremony is planned for 26 October, the 142nd anniversary of the navy’s 1882 bombardment of the nearby village of Angoon.
Unless you’re counting war materiel sent to the IDF, I’m not sure what villages we’ve indiscriminately shelled in recent years.
Iraq and Afghanistan
Fighting opposing military forces in a village and indiscriminate shelling of a village are not the same thing. Unless you can think of a time some random village got shelled for no reason?
Yes, the entirety of both wars had indiscriminate shelling of non military targets. The US from every perspective was the bad guys for the last 20 years globally due to their explicit murder of over 1.5 million known civillians
Still waiting on that specific example. I’m also a little leery of the “explicit murder of over 1.5 million known civillians” claim. Source on that one?
https://gpinvestigations.pri.org/the-us-is-killing-more-civilians-in-iraq-and-syria-than-it-acknowledges-9dc372d30998
https://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/usa1203/5.5.htm
https://archive.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/occupation/report/3weapons.htm
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/12/21/americas-war-on-syrian-civilians
Just a couple of examples, and that’s not even getting into the farce of dual use targets
From the first article:
While another source disagrees, this is a “he said she said” situation.
From the second:
The third quotes the very paragraph above from the second, but quotes around and omits the line about areas where soldiers and civilians comingled.
From the fourth:
Note, US propaganda aside, I absolutely agree that war crimes were committed, specifically with regards to the use of certain types of munitions. This is a separate allegation from deliberate targeting and indiscriminate destruction of exclusively civilian populations though.
War is hell, after all. All war is hell. It always kills civilians if they are present, yet it remains legal if pursued with appropriate “care”. It takes more, then, than fighting occuring within residential areas to demonstrate the targeting of civilians.
K
Wikipedia has brief introductions to both concepts for you since it’s the first time you’ve heard about america’s involvement in the middle east.
Uh huh. I’ll go “do my own research” right away, thanks.
The US military shell Native Hawaiian land for “practice” with no intention of cleaning it up. They’re not killing anyone but they’re basically making native land uninhabitable for anyone else after/if they leave
Yeah, that sorta counts. Definitely shitty.
I would count that, yes.
I don’t know why I keep getting surprised at the rampant ignorance of the average liberal, but I do.
Little more likely you’ve simply been misled. Someone below quoted four sources, and the very best they had was one man’s testimony which was contradicted by the Kurds.
Note, the keyword is indiscriminate. Not shells aimed at fighters in a village, but a village with nobody fighting from it. That part is key.
Bless your heart.
My Lai would like a word