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    I am 100% behind this. If you want to fuck a robot because “western women” are “to blame” then you go right ahead. Take you and your robot back home and don’t come out until you can play well with others.

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    i’m not a woman but something tells me that they wouldn’t want to be with a person who even remotely considers the idea of owning a robotic sex-slave.

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          Do you talk about your worries and fears to the fleshlight beside your bed? Do you try and plan a future with the magazine you’ve made sticky?

          All to say I don’t care what gets your jollies off (legally of course) but there’s a huge difference between self pleasure and building a life with another human being.

          Maybe you’ll experience it some day.

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              It is more like that those people can’t get a real women because a woman is allowed to have a standard nowadays so they try to save face with “I didn’t wanted a real women to begin with. Bots are better anyway. I’m not lonely, you are lonely”.

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          What a stupid question. Do you think people use sex toys as a replacement for emotional intimacy and shared life experiences or is this a self-tell that you think relationships are nothing more than sex?

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            Are you going to force people who own bots to use them for emotional intimacy and shared life experiences, or does your crystal ball tell you this will happen?

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              I mean that seems hugely implied by the pictures in the above post no?

              Edit: oh you said forced. No? But I don’t see how that’s relevant. Why would you ask “Do you have sex toys?” In response to that comment?

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                I think the point was “I don’t assume you are in love with your dildo, and so you shouldn’t assume consumers of sex robots are, or desire to be, in love with their sex robots.”

                The picture in OP isn’t really a counterargument, as it’s arguably an appeal to one specific slice of the nascent sex-robot customer base.

                I have to admit, while sex-robot is not a thing on my want list, if it were I’d tend to see it as a super fancy sex toy, not as a companion. (Though again I recognize that for some it probably would be.)

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      … Can it do domestic labor or just sex? I am a woman and frankly I’d be interested in a robot wife… I’ve got my husband for sex but we’re tired of cooking dinner and cleaning the house. We’d both like a wife.

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      Most of those men were never that desirable on a personality level anyway.

      They think of women in transactional terms, where they only do what’s necessary to get laid.

      I think, especially the incel types almost live in an RPG. Women are just NPCs, you do some quests for them, fetch her father’s sword from the orc cave, hit the right speech options and if you gathered enough reputation, you get the ethereal pussy of power that gives +5 on mana.

      Switching directly to robots does make sense in that world.

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        the thing i just cannot wrap my head around with these people is what the hell they’re after, they claim they don’t like women and yet they’re clearly thirsting after them.

        best i can guess is that they’re just profoundly mentally unhealthy and unable to realize that if they want a partner they should just… be desirable, which easy to get started with by learning how to cook and being nice to people.

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          They see women as accessories, like a tie or jacket, and fundamentally less valuable than themselves.

          I think this is partly driven by a mixture of misogyny and low self-esteem. A woman on equal footing might threaten their very fragile self worth.

          So being a normal person would mean partial submission to a woman (because that’s just part of being in a relationship, you’re not always on top), but at the same time they feel the societal need for a woman, because only having sex makes them true men.

          And it’s also the typical self-victimization of fascist Ideologies. Nazis are victims of the Jews, current fascists are victims of immigrants or Muslims, incels are victims of Chad Thundercock.

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            I think this is partly driven by a mixture of misogyny and low self-esteem

            It’s also driven by isolation. There’s a reason there are so many incels out in the sticks. These guys have never been popular, so they locked themselves away, in a place where you already have to work to meet people. They basically never socially mature, and get all their human interaction on 4chan

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      I mean, they would most likely also make a male version.

      And then we can all join in on the fun with both. Might even be able to do the more advanced Kama Sutra stances that are normally reserved for orgies.

      You can bet it will be someones kink.

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        Robot wives are pretty much exactly what the whole torso dildo is. Only, someone who has the whole torso dildo isn’t taking it out to dinner and dancing and showing it off like it’s trophy.

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          No no it’s like a human body without any limbs.

          I guess now that I think about it the limbs would be flaily and weird. I don’t think there is a head either, just the torso.

          If you’re not familiar with this there are dildo conventions that showcase all the latest and greatest.

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    Misogynists and fascists like disgusting Elon aside, I do believe there is a serious problem on the horizon.

    Just existing AI capabilities, “cyberdildonics” and virtual reality headsets. It doesn’t have to be a full sized sex robot, simple hardware like the handy already exists.

    Imagine combining that with a ChatGPT and video generating AI that is designed to create “engagement” similar to how social media does this - not just with sexual pleasure but also through generated stories creating a pseudo intimacy based on illusion.

    It sounds pathetic but algorithms could relatively quickly generate the “ideal” forms of pornography and stimulation to maximize pleasure, including “aural” stimulation and sex stories. And that generated for the tastes and desires of each individual.

    So there is at least the possibility of a kind of addiction or at least habit forming from a kind of “ultra porn”. Long term this will lead to changes in dating and procreation and socialization, if sexual desires are being able to be fulfilled illusionary and in a fantasy world.

    No matter how pathetic you think this is, it’s going to be a real problem or at least disruption. Obviously it won’t be a feminist “self own”.

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      sexual desires are being able to be fulfilled illusionary and in a fantasy world.

      Aren’t we pretty much there already? Dating and being together is about so much more than sex, the loneliness epidemic has other causes.

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        A lot of it has to do with options. Not good or bad, but options.

        You go into a store and want to buy milk, and instead of there being the local milk selections there is now 50,000 different choices. So we always seem to hold out for that more ideal option and never really select one.

        This might be where modern dating is going. Fight Club talked about the single serving friend. Tinder style dating has turned us into single serving partner.

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          Window shopping on a hookup site is one thing, it seems a bit like some people have just not gotten the memo that that’s not what a long-term relationship looks like. Superficial stuff is nice but I’d rather find someone I really, really like. Can’t really window shop for that though and it might take a long, long time to actually find out if the feelings match reality.

          Apparently a large amount of people are essentially casting someone for the role of partner though. Never really taking down their personality defenses, never just being themselves. Because that’s being vulnerable. 1800s style. I’d rather stay single.

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      You’re kinda describing a “doll house” from Cyberpunk 2077, except it’s ai controlled humans that get their memories wiped performing the service instead of a vr headset

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      Eh, I think it will broadly be a good thing. Perhaps there will be addiction problems, but you can already basically see any kind of porn you want with minimal effort… This refinement will only have drastic effects on the most niche fetishists.

      Plus, anyone who has tried prompting an image generator to do something that isn’t a digital art image of a sexy elf in the forest knows it’s a real pain to actually get models to do exactly what you want. As they get more sophisticated I don’t see this changing. Porn video generation will be fraught with frustration and difficulty… Most likely generating good porn will be a whole job of its own.

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        Well we’re both speculating, but I believe AI will advance to the point it can reliably animate a 3D animated “girlfriend” in a virtual environment and then learn how exactly how to maximize pleasure and create erotic stories. With more advance teledildonics being able to simulate different types of sex it could become better at that then the best “courtesan”. Fantasy is often better than sex already, but what happens when you have visual, physical and erotic narrative woven together?

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          Well it certainly sounds like it will make for a great wank experience but it’s not going to replace my relationship any time soon lol

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            Your relationship won’t be the issue. It will be the millions of high school boys who grow up with this experience rather than attempt dating. And why would they date? That person has problems, isn’t “on” 100% of the time. For a young man they can get everything they think they need from an AI wankfest.

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    I really don’t understand the dot connection from sexbots existing to women becoming secound class citizens or whatever they think will happen. It’s as if they think women only exist for sex and marriage and won’t have a purpose without it. And that’s not even to go into their assumption that every single person will decide that having a human connection is pointless and can be replaced by a non sentient(god I hope so) sexbot.

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      I feel like it would free a lot of women to focus on their careers and stuff as opposed to being conditioned to find a husband.

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      I really don’t understand the dot connection from sexbots existing to women becoming secound class citizens

      It’s the same thinking that leads to “AI will replace programmers/artists/writers” but with extra misogyny. People in power don’t actually believe this garbage, it’s all a marketing gimmick to appeal to losers and incels. Nevertheless, this kind of rhetoric does real societal harm. Same as with musks hyperloop – hype up a fake idea and grab the cash.

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        The scary thing is I think some of them (like Muskrat) do believe it… even though they have no idea how AI even works or how to build a robot like in the pic. They just come up with the idea and then hand off all the actual planning to others, and then strut around like roosters in a barnyard feeling oh-so-smart.

        And these rich idiots want this stuff in order to keep all the money for themselves instead of paying an actual human for art/programming/writing (in the case of AI) or so they don’t have to deal with a real human being with their own needs and wants (in the case of a robot ‘wife’). They just don’t want other ‘inferior’ people around them, period.

        Which just goes to show what they think of marriage, I suppose.

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      (Assuming such technology could be viable and not, you know, horrifying like it sounds it would be…)

      [Headlines ten years after the invention of the robot “wife”]

      WHY ARE GENERATION ALPHA WOMEN KILLING TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE?!

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      GEN ALPHA WOMEN SAY THEY ARE HAPPILY SINGLE: WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM??!

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      DEATHS FROM LONELINESS AMONG GEN ALPHA MEN ARE WAY UP: WHAT’S GOING ON?!

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      So you’re suggesting that people - especially those in power - seem to think that women are equals who have individual identities and worth?

      I’m not a woman, so I’m probably not qualified to comment; and I’m not intending to attack you personally, only address what you say here; but it does seem like in many cases women get a bum rap.

      What is a dot connection?

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    lol this would be amazing news for straight women. it should be super cheap and accessible too. imagine the number of weirdos who will preliminate themselves from dating before you even know them. what a wonderful gift to the world. it’s great for straight men too, if the women won’t have to spelunk through so much garbage to find a normal dude.

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    Awesome. As a woman, I cannot wait for the day men will be so occupied with a robot waifu, that we can finally walk safely at night.

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      Well most men don’t assault women. It’s always a small percentile. And since assault is often about power, not sex, I doubt that would solve anything.

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        It has always been dominance seeking behaviour. Testosterone’s prime choice. Nothing new there.

        You only have one life. It only takes one asshole to maim you for the rest of your life. Can’t afford to lose your life.

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      As a dude, it pains me that this is the current state of affairs. I wish things were better for both men and women (and all others too).

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        Don’t say “men” as if they aren’t human. They are men as much as the ones who aren’t assholes.

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          didn’t mean to dehumanize them, i meant that they aren’t men in the sense of masculinity. theres not much thats less masculine than bothering people who don’t want to be bothered.

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            Anything a man does, could be dubbed as masculine. Be it helping someone, or dominating someone.

            Boys and men have the habit to fight moreso than girls and women. More violently too. Yet when a man assaults someone, it’s somehow not masculine?

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              Assault is not an masculine trait, it’s an action done by disgusting people regardless of gender. I wasn’t assaulted often, but I was hit by women more often than men(I know that I am in the minority, but it demonstrates that violence is not inherently something based in gender).

              I personally think that masculinity (or femininity) is diminished by such actions. It makes people look undisciplined and lacking morals, empathy and respect.

              I also think it’s important to start defining masculinity and femininity by positive traits, so young people see it and aspire to embody those traits. We need a counter-weight to the Tate’s and Rogan’s in this world.

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    I’ll be headed to the junkyard with all the rusty cybertrucks in a few years when he finishes this very clear non AI generated image project! I’ll no longer be useful! WOMEN ARE FINISHED. /s

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    No big surprise we have a anti feminism group here in Australia.

    Probably full of the same dickheads causing all issues here in Australia (lots of them tend to be construction or truckies for whatever reason)