The Teamsters union on Wednesday said polling shows most of its members back Republican former President Donald Trump’s bid for a new term in the White House over Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris.

The 1.3 million-member union said its executive board plans to announce later on Wednesday who it is endorsing in the 2024 U.S. presidential election.

The union said a national electronic poll of its members from July 24-Sept. 15 showed rank-and-file Teamsters voted 59.6% to endorse Trump compared with 34% for Harris.

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    Not surprised. Dems haven’t done enough lately for workers. They used to be THE worker party. But since Clinton, they’ve been nearly as deep into corpo pockets as Republicans.

    Even Biden sided with the railroad corpo’s over the union.

    I’ve said it before. Many Trump votes, are votes to blow up the system hoping for something new. Because it’s not working for the average person anymore.

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      I’ve said it before. Many Trump votes, are votes to blow up the system hoping for something new.

      How did that work out in 2016?

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        They think when the chaos hits they’ll be the ones climbing the ladder instead of the ones being used as a ladder.

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          One of the great collective sins of America is believing the lie that everyone can end up rich and successful and influential if they just try hard enough. Or just wish hard enough in some people’s cases.

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        Not well. But nobody (including Trump) ever expected him to win, and there was no real plan. Now they have Project 2025. This time things will go real bad if he gets elected.

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        Oh c’mon, he just said he would be dictator for a day! He didn’t mean it! Or he did and you should have known better. Whichever one is applicable come November.

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        The worse system is the blowing up. When things get bad enough, people will revolt to build a better system. The Jan 6th protesters imagined that’s what they were doing. But they were deluded or dumb or both. We’re not there yet. I hope we can avoid it.

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      Even Biden sided with the railroad corpo’s over the union.

      Yes, because at that time further supply chain disruptions would have been disastrous for Americans.

      And what happened after that? The White House continued to work with the Union until they reached an acceptable compromise.

      The economy didn’t take another hit, the union is happy, and Internet commenters can cry “Corpo Biden!” with no included context as to what happened.

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        And that temporary disaster would have forced permanent improvements to pay and working conditions. Some pain now, for gains later. That’s how most everything works.

        Labor day is a holiday for all the people who died fighting for better working conditions.

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            Yah. Eventually they got a raise, and 4 whole days of paid sick leave. They still work skeleton crews on unsafe trains, with no power over their own schedule.

            Again. It’s not enough.

            Rather than taking another several months it could have taken a few weeks, and they likely could’ve gotten much more.

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              So you’re not mad at Biden for continuing to work with the Union to get a deal both sides would find acceptable, you’re really mad at the union for voting to accept that particular deal?

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                I can be mad about more than one thing at a time.

                But Biden trying to help some after fucking them over. That’s kind of the bare minimum. I’d say I’m only a little disappointed in that.

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                  So to recap this sequence of events:

                  You’re mad at Biden because:

                  1. A bill that Congress passed preventing railroad workers from going on strike, because it put the good of the nation ahead of the good of the railroad workers.

                  2. Biden continuing to negotiate with the railroad unions for months afterwards.

                  3. The White House and the railroad unions agreeing to a compromise.

                  4. The unions voting to approve that compromise.

                  That about sum it up?

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            Not everything.

            On Feb. 8, Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, chairman of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, wrote a letter to the leaders of six Class I railroads, urging them to guarantee at least seven paid sick days for all of their workers.

            “Last year, the companies you lead made over $22 billion in profits,” Sanders wrote, noting that they had cut 30% of the workforce over the last six years. “Guaranteeing seven paid sick days to rail workers would cost your industry just $321 million.”

            Russo is grateful that Sanders stepped in. “We truly compliment his effort to bring dignity to workers in the rail industry,” he said. “Without it, we very likely would not have gotten what we have gained today.”

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              The union and the railroad reached an agreement they both found acceptable.

              The IBEW and BNSF Railway reached an agreement April 20 to grant members four short-notice, paid sick days, with the ability to also convert up to three personal days to sick days.

              They asked for seven sick days, they got four plus three convertible personal days for an annual total of seven. That’s a reasonable compromise.

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      What the hell are you talking about? The Inflation Reduction Act has tons of spending that goes to union labor. Biden’s tariffs also protect industries that have tons of union labor. What the fuck has Trump ever done to help unions?

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        I said “enough” not “nothing”. The Inflation Reduction Act goes to corpos first. Then whatever they can’t manage to skim off for themselves, will go to workers. It’s still a corpo first policy.

        Replacing the parliamentarian to push through the $15 minimum wage would have been better.

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        I think what stands out to me is the growing use of legislative power to stop strikes and remove negotiating power from unions. The most recent major example being the then pending rail strike back in 2022.

        Sure Trump will be 10x worse, but the Dems really haven’t done enough to address the health and safety of these people, and to protect them from growing corporate exploitation.

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      I would be surprised at the absolute stupidity of that, voting for the absolute corpo party in some bizarre protest, but you guys already voted him in for a first term so nothing is really surprising when it comes to the US anymore.

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      It’s sad that people are so myopic, they can neither see nor appreciate the plain truth when it’s in front of them. And I was one, and maybe in many ways still am. Regular people have no one representing their interests.