When I first joined Lemmygrad, I had the peace of knowing that everyone here is participating in good faith, unlike on reddit, which is full of liberals who will comment on everything just to get a reaction or a chauvinistic boner. The good faith here was a very welcoming thing, that even when I made a mistake users corrected me and gave me a second chance to rethink what I said, because they knew I wasn’t here to troll and perhaps I was misguided or uneducated on a subject.
After the reddit refugee thing, you’d usually see them on communities that used to be popular on reddit that exist on Lemmygrad’s instance (latestagecapitalism) or posts that got too popular, but now they shove themselves on every community here, even if its name was “LENINFANGIRLSCLUB1917” and had a picture of Lenin on every inch of it.
But now, since there’s so many clueless liberals that came from reddit and don’t know how to act, devaluate constructive discussions on for example if a theocratic force like Hamas should be supported against the Zionist entity or not, into arguments about whether the Zionist entity is a colony or not. nowadays if someone comments some shit like “communism doesn’t work because of human nature.” I legit wouldn’t know if it’s sarcastic or actual believers of that.
I feel this has a major negative impact on us and the community, it is harder for anyone old or new to participate here without being downvoted (idgaf about downvotes) or argue on whether Jeff Bezos eats children or not, and any new participants is instantly greeted with a death stare if they can’t recite Das Kapital backwards in Hausi.
Anyhow, that was my rant, I personally believe that what we’re seeing right now is just a wave caused by reddit, and liberals will either learn how to use Lemmy properly, or leave the site all together because they can’t give comments gold awards. With all that I’ve said, I’m looking forward to the Hexbear federation horizon where we’ll hopefully be dunking on losers together. <3
Yeah it kind of sucks. Just remember to smash the report button, all you need to write is “liberal” and the admins normally take care of them within the hour
My absolute favorite genre of liberal wandering in here are the ones who uncritically just link the entire Wikipedia article on Stalin or Gulags or something as a “source” for their blatant anticommunism and western chauvinism.
Just so many things hilariously brain dead about that but its the confidence and naivety with which they do it that really kills me.
My personal favorites are the ones who use media bias fact check as if it were a source to take seriously.
Hey, if it shows up on “ALL” then I might comment on your arrogant bullshit.
“Arrogant”, says the off-fed cracker tourist in a community he’s definitely not subscribed to, just to piss in the pot to say he did anything. Empty-assed life without being a troll, is that it?
But I remember you, you’re that cracker who thinks “both sides” is a valid defense of democrats when we say democrats and republicans serve the same masters and the same ends! So yeah, you’re definitely lost.
As an outsider (also non-US), it seems obvious enough to me that US society and subsequently US politics is pretty screwed up and big changes there are unlikely. Lowly US workers would seem to have a slightly better chance of a secure life if the US democrats could get and maintain a majority, and it would be an opportunity for more meaningful change.
Once again as an outsider, I see some traditional northern-EU models as better - social democracies, with capitalism’s extremes largely reigned in, with attempts to find a balance between workers and large employers. I also see how the EU has prioritised capitalism and we risk a race to the bottom. I don’t see capitalism as evil, but it is obviously a successful model that has largely taken over the world. I wonder if there are viable alternatives that don’t involve pitchforks, along with a transitional path to them.
I can imagine other forms of socially-minded corporate governance, competing and sometimes winning against for-profit global corps, with the appropriate legal forms/framework in place, and initial government support. I guess that in some ways, public service/institutions are already this for some.
I can’t imagine a wholesale abandonment of the current capitalist system, a big revolution, and any kind of stable or fair system coming from it. That whole human nature thing, I guess.
So what could be an alternative with a chance of peaceful success, which could sustain itself in this globalist world?
edit: Thanks for the replies, everyone. Interesting links. The books will hopefully have more references than medium/youtube. Enough to get me started, anyway!
You would be better off making a thread in !communism101@lemmygrad.ml
I’ll just say for now that no, social democracies are not the path forward, it’s the moderate wing of fascism for a reason. If you want actual explanations, you’re more likely to get better and fairer answers there, not here in a thread ranting about liberals
