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Why is ‘Latin America’ listed as of it is a continent? Mexico is part of North America.
Hey, my sincere apologies for my other reply. I had too much of Lemmy yesterday… after several DUMBASS replies trolling me (like putting words into my mouth, then ridiculing those straw man concepts - really though, I should have known better than to say that I like Mac OSX, even in a non-Linux, general-technology community, anywhere on the Fediverse, as that never fails to bring out the trolls from under the bridge… whenever will I learn!?:-P), I started to presume guilt everywhere I looked, and essentially unwittingly fed forward that negative behavior onto you, so again my apologies. This community I hope will remain better than that.
Thanks, I was going to let it go because I was sure you just misunderstood what I was saying, and honestly it isn’t worth arguing over. But I appreciate you following up.
Where are you seeing “Latin America” - wait for it - as a continent, on this graph?
It is to the left of North America, and to the right of Africa, itself after Asia and Europe. In other words, that entire line is the list of continents.
This is known as the “legend”, which is placed there in order to explain the coloration. e.g. all Latin American nations (consisting of only Brazil & Mexico in this map of only the “biggest countries”) are purple, b/c ‘Latin America’ is colored purple in the legend. And Asian countries are green, USA is red, Africa is orange, European ones are blue.
Do you see “Latin America” anywhere else, other than the legend? I tried & tried but could not…
So mystery solved I suppose.
If you were joking, that was not clear to me.
I don’t think Brazil is even part of Latino America either because they speak Portuguese not Spanish. I could be very wrong though.
Portuguese is a romance language so it has Latin roots. Latino would still apply.
The romance language definition begs the question, are French-Canadians Latino?
I think it’s language and geography. French-canadians meet the first criterion but not the second.
Latinoamérica is all Spanish, Portuguese, and French speaking countries in the Americas plus Puerto Rico. Quebec, Louisiana, and Miami are not part of Latinoamérica. Latinoamérican ethnicity is anyone whose culture comes from Latinoamérica. Examples:
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People born in Miami aren’t Latino. However, if they were raised in a Latino family, then yes.
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A person born in Puerto Rico to an Anglo-Saxon family that rarely if ever socialized with the local population wouldn’t be Latino.
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A person born in Australia to Mexican parents and raised with Mexican culture would be Latino.
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A person born in Mexico to an Australian family that acculturated and integrated to the local culture would be Latino.
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A person born and raised in Spain as Spanish is not Latino.
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French-Canadians are generally not considered Latino because they have been culturally isolated from Latinoamérica.
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A person born in Ancient Rome would not have been Latino even if they spoke Latin.
It’s actually much simpler than that. Latino is just someone living in the US that is a descendent of someone from Latin America.
The term might extend to people living in other countries other than the US by now, but the definition is similar.
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“biggest” would imply size by land area.
a more appropriate term would be “most populated”.
No offense to your post, but I think this is an absolutely terrible way to display data. A line graph would be so much cleaner and easier to read.
Its like a terrible subway map lol
Why is DRC expected to gain so much population?
Yeah, with how climate change is going, I would expect a country on the equator to not have a particularly good time…
Most of Africa, marginally better healthcare and uncontrolled population growth. It’s not linear growth it’s exponential.
They are probably using India/Pakistan over the last 40 years as a guide.
So what is the UN predicting to happen in the next 76 years for the DRC (population 109 million) to surpass the US (population 334 million)? The DRC historically doesn’t have the stability that would lead to explosive population growth, and with the climate continuing to warm and the DRC being on the equator it’s going to feel the effects of climate change particularly severely.
Nigeria (pop 230 million) seems more likely, though it also is going to have the same problems with climate change the rest of the middle latitudes will have.
Projecting 80 years out based on current trends is pretty silly to begin with.
Shit changes.
I wish this was updated with the current statistics. India has already taken over China in terms of population.
What’s happening with Indonesia?
I never realized that the USA was in the top 3. Wow, what a rapid drop-off then, from roughly a billion or so people to a mere ~0.3. India and China truly stand apart, towering above so many others combined.
Since that is the case, it might be neat to show the EU then, if that helps close the gap to make them more comparable? But maybe that would be too improper a comparison.
I think it’s odd to see how China does not include Hong Kong or Taiwan. Like… of course it doesn’t!? I kinda get why someone wants to be precise to say that, but also it feels like giving in to a grumpy toddler child who claims that the whole world belongs to them - just bc they say it, doesn’t make it true!? Maybe there’s some other way to convey it that avoids that stigma, like “China refers only to the Mainland areas” or some such.
Or even more generally, “imperial powers like UK and China do not include their territories or projections” (whatever that last word should be). Similarly, does “USA” include things like Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, etc.? Maybe the population numbers don’t statistically matter for those situations, but then do they matter for China? It’s odd to see China uniquely called out then, like someone going out of their way to not anger Pooh-bear, when there may not even be a need to say anything about it at all?
drop-off then, from roughly a billion
What?i misunderstood, as explained below
By drop-off, they mean the top two countries have over a billion people and the third country only has 330 million.
oh… i thought they are suggesting that US somehow shrank from past moment when they had a billion. my bad.
Um… are you joking?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States
Also, even in just your link alone, 300,000, in units of thousands, is still 300,000,000, hence 300 million. They should have used a better unit there imho… knowing that it would lead to exactly this misunderstanding.
Always distrust everything that you read - you are right about that!:-)
knowing that it would lead to exactly this misunderstanding.
this wasn’t misunderstanding regarding units, i was confused about that billion, not 300m.
I see that part of this was explained in another comment already, or I would still have been very confused:-).
Right, well… also distrust your own understanding of everything that you read too!:-P Examine from every angle, if that helps, and then let Occam’s Razor be your guide.
From my POV, I presumed it was common knowledge that the USA has never had a billion people, even in the past (even before it was the USA). Nor has any nation on earth, excepting China, and India is much worse, at one point projected to be on track to reach 2 billion by… well now I forget, but anyway, those two are well-known to be isolated having BY FAR the largest number of people than have ever existed on planet Earth before now (that we know of, or have even the remotest shred of evidence for or is even thought to have the tiniest likelihood of having been).
Which is kind-of a big deal when combined with issues of e.g. climate change. China may not have handled it perfectly, but at least they tried SOMETHING, with their various child restriction policies, whereas India’s stance that is of a more religious nature, very often prohibits any form of birth control (it’s more complex than that b/c there is no singular religion or even vague category of one there, yet many of them share that stipulation, including Catholicism and much of Hindu, and portions though by no means all of Buddhism, and some of the more conservative sects of Muslim & Mormon, etc.).
I can understand Taiwan, as it is an independent country except for China’s claim to it.
HK is strange not to include at this point and moving forward. It’s part of China by every definition.
Thank you for the feedback.
But this graph goes back to 1950? So like, did that data point exclude it, and then the 2100 one… who knows? It seems to bring up far more questions than answers.
Not sure if this is correct or not, but https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/HKG/hong-kong/population says that the population is only 7 million, despite being so dense but also overall the geographic area is small, and used to be like 2 million in 1950. Which is only 0.007 billion - not really significant.
Taiwan is more so, at 23 million, https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/taiwan-population/.
But the two of them together are only 0.03 billion - and as you mentioned, why include another sovereign nation into China’s figures? It demeans Taiwan, appeases a country that may use violence to take it over… well anyway my original point that I need to stick with that if the goal is to avoid politics and convey information most accurately, then this disclaimer still seems to single out China, to the exclusion of every other nation in the world that might make a claim on other areas as well. And despite how the HK situation that was mutually agreed upon for a time and is more significant, the Taiwan situation is what seemed to bring “politics” into this, whereas I mentioned possibilities that would have made it more truly apolitical, and removed the focus from specifically China to highlight how most imperialistic nations have such territories associated with them.
Thank you for sharing
