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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world
    109·
    2 months ago

    For like the millionth fucking time. Stop writing articles like this as if there was no previous context. He crossed this line over a decade ago.

      • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
        43·
        2 months ago

        It really, really shouldn’t be just on voters. This shit is defamatory and incites violence; there should be legal consequences for it.

        • khepri@lemmy.world
          12·
          2 months ago

          Yeah, I wish the legal system didn’t have this deference to “the voters will decide” when it reaches the level of actual criminal activity. Like the fact that you are running for or currently hold some office should have no impact at all on whether we are all equal before the law or how the law treats us. Yet every court and law enforcement agency seems terrified of the appearance of influencing the outcome of an election to the point that as long as you are running for something you are essentially legally bulletproof if the election is coming up soon.

        • ultranaut@lemmy.world
          2·
          2 months ago

          That would require the rule of law but we apparently ran out of that awhile ago and forgot to buy more. Or really, it never applied to certain people as much as others and now that is truly laid bare by the failures of the legal system to bring consequences for the crimes we have all witnessed Trump committing.

        • Riccosuave@lemmy.world
          3·
          2 months ago

          Half of us…Let’s not other-ize them because I’m assuming you are also American, and like it or not they are our fucking peers.

          One way or another they are our fucking problem to deal with unfortunately. I know you didn’t really mean it like that most likely, but I think it is important to recognize that we have to accept the reality of the society we are living in no matter how much we fucking hate it.

          • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
            3·
            2 months ago

            No, I did mean it like that.

            I’m absolutely certain I’m a “them” to them. They’re trying to turn my country into a shit hole that’s dangerous for people like me and even more dangerous for people I care about. So fuck them. I’m willing to forgive the simpletons who don’t understand what they’re doing, but there is no “us” anymore unless and until they give up entirely on their dreams of building a racially pure fascist theocracy and do a really, really good job of showing they’re sincere and remorseful. Their leaders need to be swinging from ropes just like the Nazis convicted at Nuremberg, or at least rotting in prison. I won’t be holding my breath for that to happen.

            • Riccosuave@lemmy.world
              2·
              2 months ago

              The thing I believe you are missing in your assessment is that it took outside forces to overcome Nazism in Germany, and Fascism in Europe more broadly.

              Nobody is coming to save us this time. We are the world’s leading nuclear superpower. So, any attempt to change course is going to have to come from within unless we are talking about destroying civilization entirely.

              I don’t see a way that outside diplomacy is going to have any effect either. We must accept the reality we are in, and fight back by using grassroots methods to stop the radicalization of our peers.

              I grant you that it feels like a hopeless battle at times, but so do all wars of attrition. I understand the anger and the fear. It is justified. However, we need to be clear eyed and sober minded about the reality we are living in. So, I think my original point still stands.

  • shoulderoforion@fedia.io
    42·
    2 months ago
    1. Trump is a incompetent liar, with a first Presidential administration that saw over 1 million Americans die from a purposefully sandbagged and mismanaged worldwide viral pandemic response, capped off by a violent and deadly insurrection in the nations capitol building
    2. Having had his pants pulled down on national television by Kamala Harris, he has no other option than to start throwing molotov cocktails into the zeitgeist, knowing the feckless media will oblige for ad revenue, hoping to push Harris/Waltz below the fold
    3. Well meaning though obviously ignorant netziens continue to repost articles, mocking Trump, thereby amplifying his messages of hate and division, which is the only way his molotov cocktail throwing can achieve the goal of keeping him on the front page, and sucking all the air out of any energy praising Harris
    • 9point6@lemmy.world
      30·
      2 months ago

      As Boris Johnson famously wrote about it, this is “the dead cat on the table” strategy:

      There is one thing that is absolutely certain about throwing a dead cat on the dining room table – and I don’t mean that people will be outraged, alarmed, disgusted. That is true, but irrelevant. The key point, says my Australian friend, is that everyone will shout, “Jeez, mate, there’s a dead cat on the table!” In other words, they will be talking about the dead cat – the thing you want them to talk about – and they will not be talking about the issue that has been causing you so much grief.

      These right wing fuckos all have the same playbook

  • dhork@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    2 months ago

    And next week, he will cross a other one. This is what he does. His base loves it, because he says the things they are thinking.

  • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
    17·
    2 months ago

    Trump lives on the wrong side of every line. If you can no longer support him after his latest transgression, you are probably on the wrong side of a bunch of issues. I’m glad people are realizing they cannot support him anymore, but there is not nearly enough introspection among former Trumpers.

  • vegeta@lemmy.world
    17·
    2 months ago

    ABC FAKE NEWS has been completely discredited, and is now under investigation. Did they give Comrade Kamala the questions? It was 3 on 1, but they were mentally challenged people, against one person of extraordinary genius. It wasn’t even close, as is now reflected in the polls. I WON THE DEBATE!

    =@realDonaldTrump

  • droopy4096@lemmy.ca
    14·
    2 months ago

    he’s got no lines to cross… he lives on yhe other side of humanity. However lines werr and will be crossed when US public elects him.

  • AtomicHotSauce@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9·
    2 months ago

    We’re far beyond the point of no return with these “people.” We know, they know, everybody knows what a menace they are and there’s no pretending otherwise. He set up the system in his favor last time, and could possibly reap the rewards in November. Protesting and harsh rhetoric will accomplish nothing.

    But we’re all too comfortable to truly defend normalcy anymore. We’ll watch it happen.

  • MyOpinion@lemm.ee
    6·
    2 months ago

    New York Times you are a bad joke now. Good of you to finally wake up but we will see how long that lasts.