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    Really? You think the Democrats should be spending valuable time in an election year talking about a niche electoral reform that most people would need explained?

    There’s a reason 99% of political rhetoric revolves around bread and butter issues or something that can be used to scare people. RCV is neither of those, and most people who are actually dedicated to getting RCV already know about FairVote and the Democratic party’s willingness to pass RCV.

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      Niche? I thought it was an idea the entire Dem group was putting forth legislation on, now it’s an obscure idea we have to take time to explain? Your last paragraph contradicts your first one - is approval voting so niche that Dems don’t know about it and can’t talk about it and have to explain, or is it so well known that every Dem already has openly stated their support of it?

      Yes, Dems should take time during campaigns to talk about actual policy. That’s what campaigns are for.

      99% of status quo talking points are boring because our representatives are bad at their jobs.

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        I thought it was an idea the entire Dem group was putting forth legislation on

        They literally did not say that. Strawman. Fallacious.

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        You’re pretty consistently putting words in people’s mouths, moving goalposts, and just generally acting with intellectual dishonesty.

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        Niche? I thought it was an idea the entire Dem group was putting forth legislation on

        There’s a difference between the Democratic base and the Democratic Party politicians who make decisions. RCV is somewhat popular among the Democratic Party politicians, it’s basically unknown of/uncared about by the base. That’s how it’s both niche, and desired by the Party. I’m sure you knew this though.

        Yes, Dems should take time during campaigns to talk about actual policy. That’s what campaigns are for.

        That’s what they do. Literally every single election.

        99% of status quo talking points are boring because our representatives are bad at their jobs.

        No they’re boring to you, because they’re not meant to appeal to you, you do not represent the majority of the Democratic base, the Democratic base is mostly middle aged college educated liberals, not hyper-online leftists.

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          Gee, wonder why Democrats have a likability issue. You don’t need to alienate people for them. Unless you hate them? It’s always so hard to tell with you all

          Most people I speak with, most average Americans, have a HUGE problem with the two party system and are open to things like approval or ranked choice voting. Go to any bar and talk to anyone. In terms of democracy, that’s majority voters. Since I’m not authoritarian or fascist, I think it’s important for representatives to hear issues like these and represent their people’s wishes.

          Both parties benefit from preventing progress. That’s why we are hashing out abortion issues from the fucking 70s. We’re arguing about child care, something Republicans wanted originally in…again, the 70s.

          Democrat politicians are NOT making this a central talking point because they benefit from ignoring their base. You’re right that they enjoy bypassing their civic duty as representatives of everyone. If they wanted to, they’d all be talking about it at every campaign to make it a theme/rally cry. They choose not to and to use old talking points that you can hear more eloquently said from the original trials and speeches of the 70s. It’s a niche issue in the media. It’s intentionally ignored by Democrat leadership. It’s desired and known by most people.

          Unfortunately for you, I’m aware of the power I have as an individual. I will keep talking and keep advocating.

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            More goalpost moving. Let’s go back to the original argument about whether or not legislation is being pushed for, maybe?

            Again, I agree with you for the most part lmao but you are doing such a bad job of coming off as intellectual. You straight up sound like someone who would get posted on r/iamverysmart.

            Jesus christ.

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              Lmfao that’s NOT the original argument. Look again. The original argument is mine, the parent comment. Saying Dems should always be bringing up approval choice voting.

              Democrats should combat this by advocating for ranked choice or approval choice voting which is a fairer voting system and won’t allow for “spoilers”

              The other commenter then unraveled in their efforts to lick Democrat boots by saying it was simultaneously wanted by “most Dems” in legislation, while being too complicated for the average Dem voter base. Go read again. Notice how I never specified Dem voters or Dem politicians? That was on purpose. I meant the whole party, both voters and candidates. That’s why the 1 bill isn’t refuting my point and it’s why the other person gave up.

              Then they posted 1 Dem’s bill, saying it was by ‘some of the most senior Dems,’ and saying ‘most Dems would support it,’ then also got upset I suggested we talk about it more. Btw paraphrasing/summarizing isn’t a strawman lol.

              1bill being introduced a few times was never the debate. It was never the original issue. Read again, kiddo

              For the record, if you agree then you are only doing this to be abusive. You’re delivering this abusively. You could choose to ‘yes, and.’ You seem to enjoy abusing the only openly woman commenter here. Creepy of you.

              You straight up sound like someone who would get posted on r/iamverysmart.

              Projection on your part. I have never cared about my ego and “appearing smart.” But you’ve brought it up a bit. For no reason except your own embarrassing hubris