Following the announcement by beehaw admins to defederate from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works, there has been many posts and messages regarding that decisions and what other instances will do.
I personally believe Lemmy/kbin can only thrive if there is a free flow of content between different instances, with instance admins taking a back seat and focusing more on the infrastructure and making sure the technical bugs are smoothened out. Community mods can moderate their communities, and users can block the communities they don’t find appealing (there’s even a toggle in settings to hide every NSFW post from your feed altogether).
We don’t want to create walled gardens, nor do we want to make Lemmy more confusing than it already is for new users. We will not be defederating from any instance if there is even one good community on it that our instance users might find useful. So far we have only blocked lemmygrad.ml, and right now we have no plans to block anyone else.
The difference is almost nobody supports the presidents or officials that intiated said war crimes like president Bush. Tons of people hate Nixon too. Wheras these guys support Stalin despite his war crimes. If they supported USSR ideals without Stalin maybe that would be acceptable, but they don’t.
This is like if I tried to defend Hitler because of how he improved the economy, or his anti-smoking campaign.
Yes, but both presidents are still legit presidents in the history books. No history book ever mentions these things, you find them out through published papers or articles on the subject.
They support the ideas behind what Stalin did, as in how he ran the state. In general, I do agree with some of it as well. None of them agree with the extermination of 20M USSR citizens during his reign. Ask them, you’ll always get the same answer. I have, and I got the exact same answer I gave you now.
Plus, they mostly praise Lennin and Marx, the ideologies, not the people that implemented them. Not to mention that societies like that have been implemented anywhere for the 1st time ever in history, a completely different way of looking on things, mistakes are bound to happen. Not to the exempt what Stalin did (he did most of the attrocities on purpose, no doubt there, he just wanted more centralized power).
And what is wrong with how Hitler revitalized the economy? Please explain how that is bad 🤨. The idea is 100% good. If he was a dictator and did horrible things, that doesn’t mean all of the things he did were bad, most of them, yes, but why not take what is good from the things he did and just learn from that. Praise him, no, but praise that idea that is his, most definitely yes. After all, ask any doctor when were most advances in medical knowledge about the human body done, it was right after WWII, right after the allies snatched Mengele’s thousands of drawings, pictures, analysis, etc. Were the things Dr. Mengele did good? Of course not. Did they help greatly to progress medicine in the next 10 years or so? Most definitely yes. Should he be praised? No. Should he be mentioned as the one directly responsible for that progress. Yes.
I thought that one of the main ways hitler imprved the economy of Germany was through the war effort. Though I could ne wrong.
Much like what the US is doing today, wouldn’t you say so 🤷?
Why have you commented twice the same thing?
I don’t support the US in general. If you’re talking about Ukraine specifically then Ukraine is in the right in this war, to the extent there is a right side in this war. NATO isn’t good but current day Russia is worse.
Bad signal, must’ve posted twice by mistake thinking the post didn’t go through.
I’m not talking about Russia or Ukraine nowadays. I was talking about all of the wars the US though are “necessary” to fight over the past 30 years or so, in order to perserve it’s way of life (whatever that means)… not to mention butting in into other countries wars, internal affairs, etc. Beside the point, by having these wars, they create new job oportunities for compaines (US based or not), mostly in contruction, thus boosting the econmy. Everyone knows construction booms are one of the main reasons for economy booms, and it’s completely logical.
Oh I agree that what the US has done is wrong. That’s why I don’t support president bush or the US in general. It’s a very messed up country.
It’s also funny that they helped arm the Taliban only to go in and fight them, and then have them take back over anyway when they left. What an epic series of blunders that was.
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