Following the announcement by beehaw admins to defederate from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works, there has been many posts and messages regarding that decisions and what other instances will do.
I personally believe Lemmy/kbin can only thrive if there is a free flow of content between different instances, with instance admins taking a back seat and focusing more on the infrastructure and making sure the technical bugs are smoothened out. Community mods can moderate their communities, and users can block the communities they don’t find appealing (there’s even a toggle in settings to hide every NSFW post from your feed altogether).
We don’t want to create walled gardens, nor do we want to make Lemmy more confusing than it already is for new users. We will not be defederating from any instance if there is even one good community on it that our instance users might find useful. So far we have only blocked lemmygrad.ml, and right now we have no plans to block anyone else.
Have ever visited lemmygrad? Do you have an account there? Why do their views differ so much than the ones from the western word? Aren’t westerners (the US in particular) the ones that basically forcefully made other countries capitalist, by means of war in most cases, and called that liberation of the people? And did they not exploit those countries natural resources by calling that free capital market?
They may have extremist views, but they’re not faschists, I can tell you that much. And not all of them have extremist views, I’ve lead some prety decent conversations there.
Most people don’t like extremist views. Its jarring for a lot of people when they see people praising dictators and regimes that killed millions of people.
It’s easy to point a finger when history says that only 1 person is responsible for this or that… the same could be said about the US or any other country that did atrocities over a larger time period but the one ruled by 1 president… yet those people are heroes, but this 1 particular person in history is really really bad.
Come on, wake up, everyone did their part in destruction around the globe, yet some are considered heroes, others villans.
I know but growing up in the west you pretty much by default support democracy so I dont like seeing people who are supporting people like stalin, Mao, Xi. I also dont like seeing people supporting American imperialism but thats more ingrained in my cultural sphere.
Fine, you don’t like seing posts like that? Just block the first 10 communities on lemmygrad.
On the other hand, I enjoy most of their posts, but I can’t enjoy them from my main account, or this one, I had to make an account on lemmygard because everyone defederates from them. Now tell me that that is fair. It’s basically the same logic that beehaw applied to 2 other instances, but people are pissed off about that, but not this 🤨. Why? Just because they’re blocked from their favorite communities? Maybe I feel the same about lemmygrad, but not only am I being shunned for it, my question is not even under discussion, it’s natural to block tankies, tankies - no no, games - yes please.
You can make an account on an instance that doesn’t defed lemmygrad. Host your own or accept that extremist communities will be shunned. Its the same for Nazi’s I dont want to block them. I want them blocked by default.
That beats the whole point of having a fediverse…
Fine, I guess this place is just not for me. At least reddit had some good shitposts that I really enjoyed to be honest.
No I disagree. It proves a strength of the fediverse. If it was reddit lemmygrad would be banned and not allowed to exist. but because the fediverse allows communities to moderate themselves lemmygrad can exist and there is still plenty of servers to federate with.
That is your POV, my POV is none should defederate ever… and if I do open my own instance, that will be the one and only rule. Do whatever TF you like, just don’t ask to defederate with anyone, we won’t have that.