Don’t pass this man the rock when he’s hot🔥🏀🔥🥵HE WILL COOK! Edit: For context, she was saying “China is killing Americans” through opioids and saying Biden is helping China to kill more.

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      I downvote because, unfortunately, average people love insults like “low IQ,” “b!tch,” and many other things that modern socialists find unsavory.

      At a certain point we are hurting our own movement by trying to be PC.

      There is also no definitive line we draw. You may say that line is with “low IQ,” but someone who claims to be woker than you will say that the origins of stupid, dumb, idiot, moron, etc. are all equally ableist.

      Not to mention, we absolutely should be taking an opportunity to impune our enemies as stupid, or as useless/cruel (whatever the implication of “b!tch” was in whatever ya’all are referring to), because, well, they are.

      Unfortunately, people will often respond to a dunk better than a graph.

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        average people love insults like “low IQ,” “b!tch,” and many other things that modern socialists find unsavory.

        This is a dogshit opinion and bordering on patsoc behavior. Average people also love to ruthlessly shit on communism, and we mean to convince them otherwise, but suddenly combatting bigotry will be a bridge too far? Fuck that, bigotry is a tool that will be ruthlessly exploited by the ruling class, and must strive to stamp it out as part of the class war. If you don’t believe me, look into how white trade unionists and communists valued their whiteness over solidarity with black comrades in the early 20th century. Are marginalized comrades supposed to just suck it up while their supposed comrades call other members of their community slurs???

        At a certain point we are hurting our own movement by trying to be PC.

        “Kill all slave owners”. “Death to Amerikkka”. “Shut up cracker”. All shit regularly said by communists online. None of us hold any opinions that are “politically correct”, fighting bigotry isn’t PC

        There is also no definitive line we draw. You may say that line is with “low IQ,” but someone who claims to be woker than you will say that the origins of stupid, dumb, idiot, moron, etc. are all equally ableist

        Absolutely horrendous argument, do you think the r-slur isn’t too far? Just because there isn’t a definitive line to draw in the sand, doesn’t mean there isn’t a huge difference between the r-slur and idiot. The language right at the edge will always be a struggle, but that doesn’t mean we wipe our hands of it entirely.

        Not to mention, we absolutely should be taking an opportunity to impune our enemies as stupid, or as useless/cruel (whatever the implication of “b!tch” was in whatever ya’all are referring to), because, well, they are.

        Unfortunately, people will often respond to a dunk better than a graph.

        I literally advocated for dunking, just use language that isn’t wrapped in bigotry. Call people a cracker, worm, whatever.

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        That is blatantly wrong and no it wasn’t. It was created to help French school children with their studies by helping teachers understand where they were lagging behind and needed more help in. As “General Intelligence” was thought to be changeable and just a metric of how much people are educated in base subjects like math, vocabulary, reading, base problem solving, and pattern recognition. Something that IQ is decently good at quantifying. IQ is not a measure of “How smart” a person is.

        The eugenics movement, racists, and Nazis used IQ for race science. But that came 20-30 years after the first usages of IQ.

        They spread the myth that IQ is unchangeable and genetic, when in reality it is a metric that is affected by material conditions and education.

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      Same with the iconic “lifetime b—h” dunk. That woman did racistly insult an entire nation of people, but this sort of remark brings about a verbal slapfight.

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        yes, it’s like when liberals make the homophobic Putin/Trump jokes, it’s homophobic when they do it, and we shouldn’t let misogyny like that slip by either, even if we like Chen a lot.

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          Honest question, because I might be out of date with my language use. I didn’t realise it had misogynist undertones, my understanding was always that is just the feminine form of “bastard” and they are used relatively interchangeably?

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            it’s because it originated with comparing women to female dogs, I’ve had a few comrades ask me not to use it and it’s not that hard. Like why is it that you’re more likely to call a man a “SOB” than a “b*tch”, the meaning for bitch" changes when you call women it vs men, etc. I don’t fully understand but I’ve got plenty of other things to call people lol