This may seem a strange thing to say: Democracy isn’t actually about finding out what the people want and just trying to do it. Democracy is about setting out a vision and a plan for the country and persuading people to follow it.

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    2 months ago

    This is an incredibly simplistic definition which describes delegates, not representatives.

    Only if you ignore every thing else I said.

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      2 months ago

      Respectfully, I didn’t ignore the rest of what you said.

      I agree that representatives need to explain to the electorate why they are best placed to elect them for what comes ahead.

      But the key point is that we don’t actually know what comes ahead. They have a manifesto, etc, but there will always be unforeseen circumstances which arise.

      In those moments in a representative democracy the representatives make the decisions. Your vote for them has allowed you to have your person at the table, but they don’t need to consult with the electorate again.

      If they do, you’re moving towards direct democracy.

      There are good arguments why governments should look to keep the electorate informed, explain actions, and justify decisions, but the popularity of a measure shouldn’t be the sole factor.

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        2 months ago

        My statements in no way indicated our mps should do what popular opinion wants.

        It said not to compleatly ignore.

        Your comparisons of devastates and representatives has no value in the quote you copied.

        We both agree depict democracy is not the solution. But my statement is true.

        Representative democracy is less democratic then direct. And “completely ignoring” poplar opinion is anti democratic. By definition.

        My comment was opposing the whole idea of politicians using the term populist to belittle ideas they disagree with. Rather then challenging them on merit.

        Sorry lots of typos. I’m legally blind and using a tablet atm. Its difficult.