“She said she didn’t see us. Didn’t see us. She was very, very upset.”

The driver did stop and is not expected to be charged.

This makes me furious, but it’s completely expected.

Cars are the only weapon where you can kill someone without consequence, even if it was pure negligence or entirely on purpose.

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    This sucks all around. Sad for the cyclist who was killed, for the driver who has to live with it, along with the other riders.

    how could you not see us when there are 10 of us riding together

    How could a cyclist not understand inattentional blindness?

    As a motorcyclist, this is one of the first things you learn in class - other people don’t see you because they don’t expect to see you.

    Assuming others see you is like planning to make this situation happen.

    I’ve had drivers not see me and I have a really annoying headlight flasher with other lights up front.

    It’s my life on the line, I never assume other drivers see me - even when they look me in the eye. Ive seen too many mistakes, and avoided (so far) all of them.

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      While i get your point and i also ride defensively, but man, fuck that victim blaming attitude. They ride in a group of 10, it’s like when driver saying they couldn’t see a herd of cow because they aren’t expect to see them. It’s THEIR job to drive safely, attention on the road, not whatever the shit they’re looking. I drive and i cycle, and i have some mistake while driving because i was looking at the shop or signboard, luckily nothing happened, but i will never blame the other but myself for not being attentive. In this particular case, the driver is very apologetic, she made a grave mistake, and she didn’t blame the cyclist, which is good because she need to imprint that mistake in herself for the rest of her life for not paying attention. Lots of other motorcyclist/cyclist/pedestrian lost their life but still get blamed for the driver’s mistake, always with lame excuse of “losing control” or “couldn’t see them”.

      Edit: imagine your two daughters left for school in a motorcycle, and then police called and said both your daughter lost their life because a truck trying to turn right(or left if you’re american) on a junction and couldn’t see them going straight, and now you’re yelling at your daughters corpses for not riding defensively.

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      As a motorcyclist, this is one of the first things you learn in class - other people don’t see you because they don’t expect to see you.

      Assuming others see you is like planning to make this situation happen.

      I’m a very defensive cyclist (and motorist), but the idea that it’s the most vulnerable people on the road or sidewalk who have to pay attention more than the person behind the wheel is exactly the thing that motorists want to hear.

      Why can’t car drivers pay attention? Why can’t they follow the rules and stay below or at the posted speed limits? Why is it that “I didn’t see you” is such an airtight defence, that society basically accepts it as normal without any consequence?

      People are getting killed doing ordinary things, and it’s because of someone else driving a multi-ton weapon without any regard for human life.

      And it’s not only humans. Some will purposely go out of their way to drive INTO animals, but maybe the animal should have been paying better attention. /s

      I’m getting really tired and angry of seeing cyclists and pedestrians getting run over on a regular basis, and then getting blamed for not anticipating every idiot’s move behind the wheel.

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      Dollars to donuts she was on her phone. It’s not an unfortunate accident, it’s manslaughter

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      As a motorcyclist and bicyclist, I don’t agree with the idea that it’s the victim’s sole responsibility to be visible at all times; there is a minimum expectation of sanity behind the wheel of a multi-ton vehicle when it comes to following rules, expectations and the law.

      Based on this article, I don’t think this person ought to be permitted to drive again, they’ve proven that it’s too much responsibility.

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      Why would you not expect to see other road users at an intersection? You would expect to see a car, why not a cyclist?