I think a little clarification is needed. No. I don’t actually think everyone there is insane. I don’t care about the bans so stop trying to use that. HB enthusiasts coming here and trying to call me out achieves nothing besides proving my point

Edit: Feel free to keep trying to brigade me. It’s not going to scare me to take this down

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    Thanks for posting your thoughts, I don’t get many opportunities to hear tankie brainrot as it’s often purged from my feed before I even open the comments.

    I can see already how much of a good faith engagement this will be. Would you be surprised if people reacted negatively to your introduction?

    #1 whatever did or did not happen at the specific location of Tiananmen Square doesn’t address that the Chinese government murdered student protestors.

    What I was doing was pointing out that the most common understanding is an absurdity and historically revisionist. There is plenty more that could be discussed if one wanted to, but the common understanding is a cartoonish falsehood based on memes and not any actual attempt to read and understand. The way that parent made their reference indicated that they shared this false understanding.

    Doesn’t matter if it was two blocks over or on the other side of the country. The CCP will use lethal force against protestors.

    What matters re: the point I made is that there is a conflict with the common mental image and suggests that perhaps a person should recognize when they do not really know something. It might even jostle a person to not reach for the next-worst type of sourcing and instead do a deep-dive that challenges themselves. Wouldn’t want to get caught out like that again, right?

    #2 a think tank has nothing to do with all the Uyghurs whose family members have disappeared without a trace.

    This is the same illogical structue of the previous response. It sounds like what you would really like to say is that there is something related that you think is important so you would like to skip over what I said. Feel free to make another thread with these other points and I can respond to them there.

    You’re quibbling over minor specifics and ignoring the undisputed parts that are most damning.

    Ad I said, the entire narrative shift is based on an absurd propaganda apparatus and not any evidence on the ground. The use of the big G word.

    The fact that OP is repeating this again suggests a lack of investigation. And yet they are so dismissive! I would hope that they might become interested in doing some media criticism. Maybe ask a question. Sometimes people do this and only tell you until much later.

    Stop being a propagandist for a government that doesn’t even align with your proported beliefs just because ”america bad".

    Now you are just making things up.

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      All I want to hear from you is an admission that the CCP murdered protestors, and that they jail people without giving families or the international press any contact.

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        I.e. you want to shift the conversion to simplistic claims you feel more comfortable with rather than discuss what I have actually said.

        Please engage in good faith.

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          I don’t need to engage with a CCP cuck in all their petty talking points to know I don’t want to be a CCP cuck with petty talking points. You do you bro, your life is a joke.

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              I could grant you every irrelevant assertion you made about the location of protestor murders, and that BS about think-tanks and it would mean nothing because, again, that has nothing to do with the actual grievances people have with the CCP, which you will never address because you are a complete hack.

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                  I was curious if it was possible to get a tanky to agree with the easiest shit ever, the undisputed issues. Like I said, I’ve never really seen them talk much outside of memes.

                  Apparently it’s not, they will die on the authoritarian defense hill before ever acknowledging the trampled masses they claim to represent. They are like Trumpers but without the veneer of patriotism.

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                    It sounds like you aren’t in a place to decide whether to engage or not, and aren’t asking for help, so I will assist you by ignoring the replies you make for the next day or two.

                    If, after that, you would like to have a good faith engagement, I’d be happy to do so.