Hello, I am thinking on which email provider to use as an alternative for Gmail.
I don’t expect E2EE because I know nobody who uses either Tutanota or Proton Mail personally. I just want an alternative to Gmail, where I can message people I know who use Gmail securely.
EDIT: I have chosen my email provider as Proton Mail because I can send encrypted emails not only to people using Proton Mail, but to people who don’t too, which I feel is better.
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Thanks for the link!
It seems that Proton Mail is better for my use case. I’ll keep my Tutanota account as a backup then.
As far as Google alternatives go fast mail which isn’t an encrypted email service is a reasonable alternative that lots of people enjoy.
I am not willing to pay for a service atm
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If by ”backup” you mean “infrequently used”, be careful about using Tutanota for that purpose - it will delete free accounts after 6 months of inactivity.
Personally I use Proton for my mail needs but then Tutanota for my calendar. Perhaps something you could consider so your Tutanota account doesn’t get deleted.
Please consider at least a low cost service, it really raises the quality of the service a lot if it’s even $1 a month like Posteo or $2 like Migadu. You get a lot of genuinely useful features (unlike super-hyped services like Proton) and it removes any incentive to exploit or upsell you.
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No, Tutanota does not use PGP
I see you’ve more or less chosen proton.
Came here to say that I have been using tutanota for years now and it works very well.
It does fit the use case of encrypted emails to people who don’t use tutanota. How it works is they will receive an unencrypted email letting them know they have an encrypted email waiting for them, along with a secure link to an https encrypted, password protected web interface with inbox and outbox.
Just wanted to point this out for anyone else evaluating privacy focused email providers.
Yes, I’m aware of that, however, I don’t think sending a password-protected email requiring you to go to another website that user-friendly.
Anyways, I’m still thinking on what email service to use.
It’s not too bad. Pretty standard with like anyone who needs to communicate securely like banks and insurance.
Tutanota does the same for e2ee, don’t know why OP didn’t mention that.
I prefer ProtonMail for a few reasons:
- I get more from my subscription, 500GB of drive, fast VPN, email, password manager, calendar, SimpleLogin
- I like the UI much more, its a lot more modern, the mobile apps are leagues better (they are actual native apps, not a web app wrapper)
- the services are arguably more feature rich
- the security that they will be around for longer than tutanota, proton has over 100M users, this leads me to think they will be more sustainable
compared to gmail, both are more then viable options and it depends on personal preferences. Personally I chose Proton and I am very happy with it.
message people I know who use Gmail securely
don’t know how that should work, but ok…
If the recipient of my mail uses a OpenPGP-compatible client (say, Apple Mail or Thunderbird), then they should be able to receive encrypted mails if they set it up correctly.
True.
Then with Proton (idk about tutanota) you should be able to mail E2EE with them, since you can import their Public Keys into Proton. It’s not just “E2EE Proton2Proton”, since Proton uses PGP, you can safely mail E2EE with anyone using PGP.
I use Tutanota instead of Proton Mail.
It depends on what you need and what the other side has. It is true you can use PGP encryption with proton, yet not with tutanota. However, how many of your friends use PGP? You could also host yourself? This said, on both tutanota and proton you can set a password to encrypt to none tutanota/proton users. Both services are excellent, both lack imap or pop3. Yes proton can do this with a bridge on desktop, but has google services on android where only the app works. Tutanota does that without Google services.
The big question is, what are you looking for? Just a Gmail replacement or PGP capable email. If it’s just for a Gmail replacement have also a look to skiff.com.
