Incase anyone tells you that lemmy.ml is not a tankie instance.

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    2 months ago

    …you just reposted the quote I gave you implying he doesn’t support that war and wishes he could actually say it more bluntly.

    No, I highlighted the part of your quote in which he implied that the war was not imminent and that anyone who ‘understands the conflict’ at a time when America was warning of the oncoming invasion, would understand that Russia had no desire to invade Ukraine as a means of resolution of the ongoing political dispute.

    From one of my other links

    “So… if nobody shows up for the invasion Biden scheduled for tomorrow morning at 3 a.m., I’m not saying your journalistic credibility was instrumentalized as part of one of those disinformation campaigns you like to write about, but you should at least consider the possibility,” the whistleblower said.

    Fleeing life in prison or execution in a hurry doesn’t determine one’s principles. I find that a weird claim.

    So if I expose, say, Britain’s wrongdoings in World War 2, and flee to Nazi Germany, do I have:

    A. Principles

    B. No Principles

    Cowardice is not a principle.

    Of course, that assumes a choice between two countries, as stated before, large swathes of the world don’t have extradition treaties with the US, yet he just happened to choose (with the help of Assange) the fascist state.

    Very curious.

    Snowden essentially sacrificed his freedom to show that the US government is spying on its citizens. If anything were to imply principles, that would be it.

    “He did something I like, so he has principles”

    He pissed off to a cushy position in Russia where he gets constant asspats from the terminally online while lending credibility to a fascist regime. Principles are not high on his list of priorities, quite apparently.

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      You’re really going to compare this Nazi Germany…? Yikes.

      I have read and agreed with many things you’ve written but you’re just wrong about this one. Doesn’t seem you’re open to challenging your view though, so that’s fine.

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        You’re really going to compare this Nazi Germany…? Yikes.

        … you’re really going to say modern Russia, a brutal totalitarian state, invading a neighboring sovereign state unprovoked and performing genocide isn’t comparable to Nazi Germany?

        … really?

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          I have read and agreed with many things you’ve written

          When I wrote this, I was hoping it would make you realize I’m not your enemy, that we could have a better conversation. I wish I’d been right.

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          The war started in 2014, he went to Russia in 2013 and obviously hasn’t been in a position to leave. Hate me if you want but you’re just wrong about this.

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            I’m sorry, do I have to outline the numerous actions of Russia in and before 2013 that made it quite clear they were a fascist state? “He went to Nazi Germany before it invaded Czechoslovakia” is not the excuse you think it is.

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              “He did something out of desperation” is not the moral statement you think it is. This is a rage boner for the ages

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                “He went to Nazi Germany out of desperation, when he had numerous other choices that weren’t Nazi Germany” is a moral statement. Or rather, a statement of lack of morals.

                I hated him much less before the Ukraine War started. I was willing to accept that he had just made a dumb decision, and that he was just a coward for lending credibility to the fascist government he was under. After his comments and constant dodges on the Ukrainian War? I interpret his motivations in a much more negative light.

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                    You feel emptier after having read someone criticize someone you’ve never met for choosing to flee to a fascist regime, support that fascist regime’s talking points during an ongoing genocide, and still get hailed as a hero by some corners of the internet?

                    I think you’re taking this altogether too personally.