We turn to Kamala Harris’s position on Israel’s war on Gaza, which many are calling a genocide. After she was asked about calls to condition U.S. arms shipments to Israel by CNN reporter Dana Bash, Harris refused to consider halting the flow of weapons and instead affirmed her support of Israel. This position violates both federal and international law, argues Palestinian American political analyst Yousef Munayyer, and, coupled with her campaign’s denial of a requested Palestinian American speaking spot from “uncommitted” voters at the DNC, he warns that “Harris could be worse than Biden” when it comes to U.S. support for Israel.
Do you genuinely think that people are being petulant or petty or something because they strongly object to their leadership supporting an ongoing genocide? Like this is some unreasonable “pet issue” or something?
The only factual result of the system we can vote in has the outcome of two parties.
GOP is getting people in swing states kicked off the rolls
Ranked choice hasn’t hit all states yet
Ergo: anyone who doesn’t vote for Harris is a vote for Trump. Like it or not.
It is a dipole. You vote for fascism and some old bitch trying to save his own ass in a clear run towards dictatorship, OR YOU VOTE AGAINST THAT.
Jill Stein and RFK Jr are wasted votes. That’s the fucking facts. Get with reality.
And if your sole vote is about Gaza, GUESS WHAT? Everyone else is waiting in line to sell weapons to Israel. You won’t solve that issue by voting for fascist bullshit in the US as a revenge vote.
So yeah…I’d call that fucking petulant if you’re willing to vote for fascism because you don’t get your fucking way. Kick and scream and do whatever you want. It’s not going the way you want in either case, so don’t take the extra step to “stick it to the man” by helping vote Trump in.
Is supporting a genocide fascist? If I were trying to differentiate myself from a fascist opponent, I might simply stop supporting the genocide. Would you go to war if drafted? If you don’t go, someone else will. That person might shoot children in the stomach, whereas you would more compassionately aim for the head.
I literally ran down a thread a few days ago asking for comment attackers to justify dropping Israel as an ally. Nobody came at me with a viable plan aside from “Uhhhh, just stop”.
That’s not how it works.
Please feel free to enlighten us on your solution though.
Is that the one where one side of the argument kept ignoring anything other than mindless unconditional support for genocide and only genocide and kept dropping little one-word dismissals like “next” and “BYE”?
Because the thread got nuked and I’m wondering if I have you confused for a different condescending genocide apologist. There are so many of them on lemmy.
Please feel free to enlighten us on your solution though.
It’s saying if you don’t vote for the best chance to stop the threat to democracy (Trump) then you are, on some level, ok with what Trump will do.
Same applies the other way. If you think she’s horrible for some reason but don’t vote for Trump (the candidate with the best chance to beat her), then you’re willing to accept her agenda.
Do you genuinely think that people are being petulant or petty or something because they strongly object to their leadership supporting an ongoing genocide? Like this is some unreasonable “pet issue” or something?
Yes, because they are. Let’s break it down.
Ergo: anyone who doesn’t vote for Harris is a vote for Trump. Like it or not.
It is a dipole. You vote for fascism and some old bitch trying to save his own ass in a clear run towards dictatorship, OR YOU VOTE AGAINST THAT.
Jill Stein and RFK Jr are wasted votes. That’s the fucking facts. Get with reality.
And if your sole vote is about Gaza, GUESS WHAT? Everyone else is waiting in line to sell weapons to Israel. You won’t solve that issue by voting for fascist bullshit in the US as a revenge vote.
So yeah…I’d call that fucking petulant if you’re willing to vote for fascism because you don’t get your fucking way. Kick and scream and do whatever you want. It’s not going the way you want in either case, so don’t take the extra step to “stick it to the man” by helping vote Trump in.
Is supporting a genocide fascist? If I were trying to differentiate myself from a fascist opponent, I might simply stop supporting the genocide. Would you go to war if drafted? If you don’t go, someone else will. That person might shoot children in the stomach, whereas you would more compassionately aim for the head.
I literally ran down a thread a few days ago asking for comment attackers to justify dropping Israel as an ally. Nobody came at me with a viable plan aside from “Uhhhh, just stop”.
That’s not how it works.
Please feel free to enlighten us on your solution though.
Is that the one where one side of the argument kept ignoring anything other than mindless unconditional support for genocide and only genocide and kept dropping little one-word dismissals like “next” and “BYE”?
Because the thread got nuked and I’m wondering if I have you confused for a different condescending genocide apologist. There are so many of them on lemmy.
Condition or cease weapons sales.
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Until they stop committing genocide.
Following this logic: anyone who does not vote for Trump votes for Harris.
So a vote for third party is a vote for Harris?
Apparently you don’t get logic. You’re definitely a Stein voter.
I applied logic consistently. I see that is not appreciated here.
No.
It’s saying if you don’t vote for the best chance to stop the threat to democracy (Trump) then you are, on some level, ok with what Trump will do.
Same applies the other way. If you think she’s horrible for some reason but don’t vote for Trump (the candidate with the best chance to beat her), then you’re willing to accept her agenda.
Vote for the best candidate & participate in active protest for your ideals on the issues the winner doesn’t support.