On iOS: tap the share button in browser => add to home screen
On Android: tap the 3 dot menu button in browser => tap “install” or “add to home screen”
The WPA’s layout is not crazy good on mobile, but at least I got some real estate.
Now, how can I contribute? I’m a frontend web developer.
Join the Lemmy development room on Matrix https://matrix.to/#/#lemmydev:matrix.org
Been trying the place and just have jerboa a shot in comparison. The actual app is better by miles. So much faster than the browser.
Clean anima, simple tap to collapse threads
App > browser for now
Agreed. I’m liking Jerboa quite a bit so far. Feels similar to Boost a long while back.
tap to collapse threads
I haven’t been able to collapse threads on Jerboa, how do you do that? Am I missing something?
At first it wasn’t doing it for me but since last night it has
Tapping anywhere in the text of a comment seems to do it, holding like i would back on Boost for Reddit simply removes the extra toolbar at the bottom, and the title area did nothing
Sometimes it just doesn’t but i find restarting the app fixes that, though i usually just move on to the next topic when that happens
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Thank you! I didn’t know about the collapsing on jerboa.
Maybe the F-Droid version is just behind, I can’t get that to work. Thanks for the input!
I am on the FDroid and have had this feature since I installed
F-Droid is always behind. Get it from the GitHub
Using Mlem myself and with the recent update it’s much more stable and definitely more responsive than the web app. Really scratches that Apollo-shaped itch.
I just wish it used screen real-estate better. I’m using it right now. I wish it could replace RIF.
Jerboa is pretty much close enough to rif for me.
Be sure to enable “list” view for posts
Where do I find this setting?
I’m using list view but it still feels a bit crowded.
Where do I find this setting?
Settings -> Look and feel -> Post View
As an alternative, there’s also Native Alpha and Hermit (my personal favorite) on Android. Play with the settings to make it full screen and frameless (no address bar at the top). It also has pull down to refresh.
On kbin, you can then go to your settings and sticky the navbar as well so that it’s always at the top as you browse. Personal preference and all that.
Cool! Good to know
thank you so much for that. worked like a champ and i don’t have that black hole staring at me anymore :)
Hermit isn’t open source. This makes the code not publicly auditable, which means that verification of security by a third party is impossible.
Would you happen to know if Native Alpha is offhand?
Yeah. Native Alpha is open source.
Awesome. Thanks. I’ll probably make the switch then. 👍
Just keep in mind that it uses your system’s WebView. If you’re not rooted/don’t have a custom ROM, that’s likely going to be Google’s proprietary version of Chrome.
Jerboa is a good alternative for Android, too. I’ve been using it for a bit now and it seems to work great.
I just tried installing kbin as described in the post and downloading Hermit and I’m not really seeing a difference between the two options. Am I just missing something?
Personal preferences. I like to keep my stuff self-contained. This keeps browsing in the Hermit environment for that PWA rather than in your browser. You aren’t really missing anything though. It might just not suit your needs and be redundant.
Wait, where’s the option to sticky the top bar? I am not seeing it in my settings but maybe I’m just blind.
This is on kbin. Username in the upper right, Settings, scroll down through the stuff there and stop when you see the Delete Account button. Look for the small cog and click it. Turn on the option to sticky navbar - you may want to toggle infinite scrolling and maybe the show icons options while there as well.
Oh wow that was kind of hidden, but you just improved this site for me so much. Thank you! Some of these seem better defaults than what is present.
Infinite scrolling not being default makes sense IMO. It’s a highly addictive feature, and a bit part of these open source, federated communities is they try to avoid the addictiveness that big tech platforms try to enforce onto their users if possible.
Sometimes the feature is highly liked by people, so they add it as a non-default option.
If you click on compact view you get the settings page for that
I tried Hermit before, assumed these features will be locked in premium and didn’t try it more, thank you!
Any idea why it changed my top bar color to gray while the icons (wifi, etc) are black? It’s not a dealbreaker but it would be nice if there’s a solution I’m missing.
Surprisingly, those particular features aren’t locked behind premium. As for the top bar color, you might be able to change the theme in Lemmy/kbin itself in your profile settings to one that suits what you’re looking for. Unless you mean in Hermit itself. In that case, I’m not sure - I use it frameless.
Really nice, thanks for the tips!
Sick! Thanks!!
I tried Hermit and noticed that Voyager doesn’t automatically switch between Dark and Light theme (in the night / morning). Workaround is to kill (force close) the app and open it again.
Do you also face this issue? I can’t remember if with Chrome I was facing it…
It saved my sessions in Hermit, so I don’t think I had that issue. But I definitely had that issue when using Brave with it not saving my settings/session between loads.
Now I’m trying this “Native Alpha” app. And with this one seems to adapt the system theme (dark or light) without needing a restart of the power app.
I think I’ll keep this app to run voyager!
For what it’s worth, Native Alpha is also open source. I found that out after the fact. So if that’s something you value, Native Alpha might be the better choice overall. Hope it serves you well!
Yes and it also works out of the box for (I haven’t had to change any setting…). For example in the other app I had to configure some stuff to hide the top URL bar or something similar.
Here I just added wefwef url app, I created the icon and voilà!
Until the websocket issue is fixed, I’m gonna stick with Jebora
Progressive? Conservatives disliked that
Hey I wanted to tell that joke
Still a better user experience than the official Reddit app.
I love that this is possible and I gave it a go but for some reason scrolling in the browser is really hard to do, it keeps adding new posts while I’m scrolling and moves everything around making it near impossible to actually read, I thought it might be just loading still but it doesn’t ever come to a stop, not sure if this is just me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This happens to me on desktop Firefox also. Even if I’ve sorted by Top, new posts with 1 upvote will get inserted at the top of the feed repeatedly.
Same
I am on the IOS web app and it still happens to me. I’ve had better experience on my browser.
as far as I know this is a bug that has been identified, although I don’t know if there’s a fix for it yet
I use jerboa for lemmy. Not sure how different it is though. Never used that webapp
I find that jerboa has some missing features that are there in the web app. Things like being able to go from a comment in your inbox to that same comment in context in it’s thread.
Mybe I will try to add that feature to the app tomorrow if no other contributer hasn’t already. Development of the app seems to move quite fast and a bunch of people are adding stuff. But I agree, there are still a lot of smaller and bigger things missing or wonky.
Nice to hear that it’s active
Actually I ran a current development build of the app which seems to have the feature already. There is a small chain icon next to the vote arrows which jumps to the comment and it’s parent and allows to load even more context. So maybe it will ship in the next app update when release :)
Have you written for the app before? How did yiu find it? I took a very quick look and plan to try working on it at some point but I don’t know kotlin at all. It’ll take some spinup for me.
Yes, I made two small contributions till now. The maintainers seem pretty responsive when new PRs are opened and open to the stuff people are adding. Did not have a thorough look through all the code of the app yet but what I have seen seems structured quite good and I look forward to working more with Kotlin and Jetpack Compose. Am a Java Dev for work, quite some time since I last worked on an Android App but making small contributions first should get you started
I’ll give it a shot as I have time. I’m primarily a Python developer with experience in Go, C, and a smattering of other languages. Should be easy enough to learn enough to contribute some small PRs.
Think so too, good luck 👍
So it’s not just me? Thank God, it’s so annoying.
It does have that feature already, you need to press the link button in the inbox below the comment.
That works for you in the app? It works for me on the web but not in the app.
I’ve been doing it in the Jerboa app.
Edit: I lied, it’s not directly from my inbox. NVM. I go to the commenter’s comments and go to the context from there. The comment is usually first or second on their list, so it’s not hard to find. But yeah, extra steps. I wish I could reply from the inbox in general.
Someone else pointed out that the dev version of the app may have this feature now, so this feature should be coming pretty soon!
Thanks! Right now I am willing to give devs all kinds of slack on what features they offer. They have their hands full with the massive growth the last couple weeks, and I am perfectly happy waiting.
Just encountered that for the first time with this comment lmao
I’m primarily using the pwa for now. Jerboa has a nicer UI in most cases, but pwa is a lot smoother, less buggy, and external links open up a lot faster. Also, jerboa has a bunch of minor annyonaces, like trying to select text and it keeps minimizing the comment instead, or how it opens Lemmy links in an external browser.
A bit more devtime and I’ll switch to it, especially if they add a feature to group multiple communities in a single entry.
Thats cool, but now it doesn’t have a back button… how do you navigate?
Probably via a swipe from the phone site? Most modern phones do this
That’s what I assumed as well, but Kbin won’t swipe…. It works for Lemmy, though.
Swiping works for me on iPhone. My only issue is there’s no way to refresh the page from the PWA on iPhone (to my knowledge).
Posted from kbin.social after “Add to home screen”
For me, I can refresh the entire PWA app on my iphone by hitting the hamburger menu on top left, then the home icon on the little sub menu bar top right. But you’re right this doesn’t help if you’re inside a thread or anywhere else. Is there a gesture to do this maybe? Similar to the back button being a left swipe?
iPhone with iOS 16 and swiping does not work on kbin PWA but does on other PWA apps. Zooming doesn’t change the situation
At least for lemmy it works in my iphone - i dont use the kbin variant unfortunately…
Probably you could try to zoom out of the page before the swipe… Sometimes, if a website is wider than the screen, the back swipe does not work correctly
On Android, you can configure an edge swipe to mean “back”. Though android also has a back button built into the ui, so it doesn’t really mean much.
On iOS swiping from the sides works for back/forward.
On the macOS 14 preview, the app gets back/forward menu items with keyboard shortcuts.
Swipe from the edge of the screen on iOS. If anyone knows how to refresh, let me know. Pull down to refresh doesn’t seem to work.
that too
First thing I did. Makes it a little more app like. Still can’t wait to see what clients get released in the next few months.
Some days, I feel like I’m the only person that used Reddit and never touched any of the applications for it.
I used old.Reddit on my phone and desktop until I switched to iPhone. Then I switched to Apollo because was like using old Reddit but formatted for phones.
It’s such a beauty of an app.
Makes it very difficult to open posts in a new tab though, I scroll and open like 6 posts to go through afterwards.
This should be pinned to the top of every instance lol
Don’t forget to check out !kbinStyles@kbin.social for UX improvements (which will work on mobile Firefox)
With all these nice scripts, I’d use kbin if they fixed the bug where voting sometimes sends you to an error page, and added hiding posts on read.
this was the first thing i did upon discovering kbin… and I use it for a lot of other sites too, namely forums like the Battle.net forums, for example.
