• John_McMurray@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    I’m tired of paying more for less. I travel a lot. Despite all the propaganda, the Americans amd Mexicans have much better systems.

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      3 months ago

      For people rich enough to be covered, that’s the part you’re missing in that simplified analysis.

      Funny how we’re looking at the countries with the most equality and where people are the happiest and our reaction is “How about we move in the opposite direction instead?”

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          The countries where people are the happiest and where there’s the most socioeconomic equality are northern European ones and they all offer a ton of social services but instead we look at the USA where everything is shit if you don’t have the means to pay for it and we’re thinking “Damn, that looks awesome!”

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      3 months ago

      I’m tired of paying more for less

      You’re completely mistaken if you think the US model is the solution - you have it completely backwards. The US has one of the highest healthcare costs in the world with WORSE healthcare outcomes. They have the highest spending per capita in the OECD. Also, higher mortality at birth, lower life expectancy, etc. In no uncertain terms, the US pays more for less, and this has been extensively studied and is why any sane government wants to avoid that model.

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      You think you’ll be getting more? How do you think the shareholders will get paid? Do you think doctors and nurses will cost less in the private system? Will private companies negotiate with pharma to lower drug prices, or just add 20% on top?

      I suspect you haven’t thought this through, and are letting your anger lead you to the wrong conclusion. Maybe you could try voting for someone else (and convincing your friends and family to do the same) for the next election.

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      oof, just absolute oof.

      You would have to pay me a LOT of money to move to the USA, primarily because of how bad their healthcare is.

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      In Canada, we spend about $8k on healthcare each year per person. This is mostly taxes, but also partly co-pays and private employer insurance.

      America spends about $14k per person.

      In both the USA and Canada, about 28% of government spending goes to healthcare. In the US that means about ~6k in total government budget from your tax dollars is spent on healthcare, while in Canada it’s about ~7K.

      The difference is that the average american also pays an additional $8K in their own after-tax dollars from their pockets in insurance and direct-billing for services.

      And for the privilege of paying nearly twice as much, the Americans have a life expectancy of 6 years less than Canadians (76.3 vs 82.6)