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    It all sounds well and good but I have a hard time swallowing any Billionaire advocating for ethics.

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      They’re all pretty shitty, but Cuban is at least one of the less shitty ones. His work on reduced cost pharmaceuticals has been life-changing for some people, and is a really nice break from big pharma constantly trying to fuck you as hard as they can.

      Yeah he’s probably dying in the revolution, but towards the end. Assholes like Musk or Shkreli are far, far worse.

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      Compared to the other Uber wealthy, he at least seems to have some sort of a code of ethics from what i can see, which is obviously limited. He’s still in it to make money (obviously), but his actions seem to suggest that he won’t go to the extreme of hurting everyone else just for money.

      I started liking Mark more when he opened cost plus drugs. It’s a pretty decent endeavor to try to reduce pharmaceutical costs for the consumer

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      I wonder if there’s any value to considering the point he makes on its own merits.

      And billionaires are also bad.

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      He isn’t the most conservative of billionaires, but hell yes he’s a greeeeedy fuck face.

      Has helped folks a bit tho. And profited

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    God I hate the circle jerking of Cuban. There is no “good one.” His PR team is working OT to paint this completely BS image. Fuck him.

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      Absolutely came here to say this. There are no ethical, innocent, or good billionaires. None. You cannot make that much money without disregarding or hurting people.

      We need to stop blocking for and idolizing these fucks.

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        Billionaire evil is a sliding scale from normal rich guy evil to comic book villain evil. He’s less bad than his peers, even if the stuff he does (like the cost plus drugs thing) are maybe just for PR.

        We eat him later than others. But we do eat him.

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          You think she’s ethical, innocent, or good? Yikes. She works hard to present a non-offensive to either side persona, that doesn’t make her ethical, innocent, or good.

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                Wow a random blogger has an opinion? You automatically win the argument, congrats.

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                  There was more than one link in my comment. Also, that’s just a sampling of the search results; you’re sure to find more compelling stuff out there if you put more effort into looking than I did.

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                  You cant say shes a “good” billionaire and then dismiss it as everyone is imperfect.

                  Look i like swift and i believe its possible for there to be a “good” billionaire but swift is definitely not it

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                  Yep as expected you’re just trolling. What a sad way to go through life. I feel sorry for you

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    The only way to become a billionaire is to solely work in your own best interest, and steal the value produced by the labour of your employees.

    Fuck off, cuban. youre one of them

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      The only way to become a billionaire is to solely work in your own best interest, and steal the value produced by the labour of your employees.

      How exactly did Cuban do that? All he did was be on the winning end of an incredibly bad transaction by Yahoo, and parlayed that into being on TV a lot.

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        Do you think he just magicked up an investment? He built a company bought by yahoo. How do you think he created the company broadcast up to that point? By himself? Or did he perhaps have employees who did the hard work?

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          Building the company isn’t what made him a billionaire. Yahoo grossly overpaying for it is what made him a billionaire.

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                None of those investors were employees. I know exactly how it works.

                Beyond a vague “any employees who had shares…” which, yeah, obviously. Which they would have had to purchase. Which anyone could do, regardless of being an employee

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            TLDR: NastyButtler fails to support their specious argument and Breadsmasher refutes each point reasonably. Argument won by the latter

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    See, I, like millions upon tens of millions of others, were not fooled for even one nanosecond by that Orange Fuck’s obvious horseshit so, you’re kind of undercutting your own credibility there, champ.

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    Bro is just now getting around to critical thinking? MANY people were of this mindset 8 years ago…

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      Oh he wanted to make more money first. Now he’s worried us poors won’t be able to buy his shit. Fuck this guy.

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      There is a reason he is able to keep grifting. There are a lot idiots who think they’re the exception. These people need to touch the hot stove before they understand why we don’t do that.

      Perhaps it’s because they’ve touched the stove many times but never when it was at its hottest and develop this idea that they are special, but the reality is they are just really really dumb and don’t understand the basic mechanics of life.

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    All of the conservatives who are coming out against Trump now are just bad liars. Everyone knew, at least for the last decade, how bad of a human being the man was and is.

    I understand that sometimes you have to make tactical alliances for politics, but to come along later and say that you don’t know a certified scumbag is in fact a scumbag, that’s just unbelievable. I would prefer if they come up with a plausible lie. For example, they could say that they knew he was bad personally but they thought his policies were constructive, or they believed that he would try to clean up the swamp, or they thought Hillary was going to be a disaster so they needed to oppose her by any means necessary, or anything that might have a grain of truth to it. Those things might also be lies, but at least give us something. Show some decency.

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    we should stop giving a shit what billionaires say. if they have anything important to say they should save it for the inevitable guillotines as their last defense.

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      You quasi-leftist internet nerds and “the guillotines.” It’s the new Guy Fawkes mask. So cringe. 🙄

      Hate to break it to you, but most guillotines won’t fit in your mom’s basement. You’ll have to go outside.

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        i mean I’m open to alternatives but it’s just easier than the hassle of implementing taxes over 100%

        also the guy fawkes man never did anything. guillotines famously did. so I’m suggesting tried and true policy here.

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        Yeah I mean it’s all over lemmy and I am fine with it. it’s harmless shut ins and I have seen much worse 4chan stuff. It’s still a cozy place compared to watch people die tv.

        After all there’s no shortage of extremists and ted-pilled righteous cucks online. We have the mildest formations here. Usually other reddit alternatives are much worse and not so easy on the eyes.

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    You want somebody that has hired

    In other words - a capitalist

    You want somebody who’s first inclination is not to do what’s in their own best personal interest.

    In other words - not a capitalist.

    Can’t have both, and we know which one we have.

    Would you hire somebody that has a long history of stealing from people - of being unethical?

    So - a capitalist, just like you (Cuban).

    This is the kind of bullshit billionaires say to try and legitimise their existence to us, but mostly to themselves. He really believes he is an ultra ethical person who looks out for the interests of others before his own, because he works hard at telling himself he is. Harder than at most things I would wager.

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      Whether or not he believes hes ethical, hes capitalist, a piece of shit, whatever; you cant dismiss the point hes giving.

      Everything he mentions is something that we need to value as a society because all this blind animosity leads us away from the truth and results in repetition of a cycle.

      Now if only we could actually hold on to the sentiment and apply it to our decision making.

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        Of course I can dismiss his point, because there is no value to it, he’s full of shit and is only looking out for his own interests while criticising others who do exactly the same. Fuck “Stepfords”, fuck “job creators” fuck make believe “ethical capitalists”, none of the things he values are things I value, nor should society at large.

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    Mark Cuban has definitely made a life of getting his end over others (through his long career in business). Like any billionaire he made his riches off the backs of others. The Yahoo deal is Mark receiving the fruit of the labour of the workers at Yahoo, with Yahoo management squandering it to him and his crew for cheap.

    I still can say Cuban is a bit different than the bunch of billionaires who inherited generational wealth or political power and above-average opportunity (Trump, Musk, Gates, Jobs, etc.). He might have the capability of understanding what it’s like to be a lower to middle class person even if he is insulated from it now.

    Like him or not, even the worst person you know can make a thoughful quip once in a blue moon.

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    I wish conservatives billionaires would say less. I don’t care if they’re anti-Trump. Being anti Trump is below the bare minimum. Stopped clock behavior

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    Aren’t all billionaires conservative? I don’t think about them for my own sanity’s sake, but I cannot imagine a progressive billionaire.

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    Doesn’t matter what a scumbag the president is as long as he doesn’t steal money from this guy or his friends and keeps making them money.

    That’s pretty much what he seems concerned with. “Dude stole money from my friend, presidents are supposed to be smart and make us money with a good economy, I don’t want a president that isn’t using money how I think they should.”

    This snippet just makes this look like another billionaire protecting his money whith no other concern.