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    On the other hand, a nuclear armed independent Texas.

    …would be invaded liberated for oil during the first extended power outage.

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      I honestly believe Texas wouldn’t last more than a few years without begging for someone, anyone to help them.

      They aren’t a self-sufficient state, no matter how much they pretend to be. They need a massive influx of goods that would all immediately halt or be indefinitely postponed (and massively marked up) if they broke off.

      The real question is whether the treasonous MAGAt politicians who run the state would make a deal with Russia for assistance.

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        Year, singular. One hurricane or ice storm and they’ll have their hand out for welfare.

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          The TX grid experienced grid wide brown outs during a heat wave, and it’s only getting warmer. I don’t see them lasting longer than a few months, especially since only so much material can come in through Beaumont. With the grid down not a whole lot of rail travel will be happening and fueling depot pumps are electric.

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          I’m giving the politicians extra time to let the plebs die off before they admit defeat.

          Perhaps a bit generous, but I like to estimate with wiggle room.

          Let’s be honest, the moment a storm or heat/cold wave knock their grid out, they’ll be demanding neighboring nations keep them afloat.

          No Deal Texit, anyone?

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      Not really. The vast majority of refineries in the US can’t use Texas crude. It’s why the idea of shifting to using American oil over imported is laughable. Not only that we have no pipelines from our oil wells to the refineries, so those would have to be built, as well. Basically, it’d take decades and tens to hundreds of billions of dollars to shift from foreign oil to American.

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        I understand the words you are using and the concept they are conveying, but I’m having a hard time getting around said concept making zero sense, at least to my uninformed brain.

        In other words,

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          There’s two types of oil, essentially and I don’t remember what they are called. When oil was easy to get we built refineries for that kind. When it got scarce you could only get the other kind.

          The US in its infinite wisdom decided it was too expensive to build refineries for the new kind, so what we’ve been doing is sending the oil we pump to other countries who can refine it, then import the kind we can refine.

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        You are correct except for the pipeline requirement as tech is changing.

        Haliburton and the like have plans for in field micro refineries, they can easily switch to whole crude or even get it down to J8 which is similar to diesel without the additives, it wouldn’t require a pipeline, and one wouldn’t really be in the best interest considering how mobile shale-fracking well heads need to be.

        There’s a startup being funded by guess who that’s aiming to do just this

        https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2024-06-06/texas-startup-hopes-4th-times-a-charm-to-build-first-big-us-oil-refinery-since-1977

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      Texas has so much of the US military production that I imagine the clandestine powers that be would take over the state in a fashion that would make the Epstein and Boeing whistleblower ‘suicides’ look tame.