If you think getting around the Toronto area by car is bad now, you may want to start planning a future elsewhere, as newly revealed documents from...
  • flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    88·
    3 months ago

    Btw for those initially confused like me, GTA stands for Greater Toronto Area.

    Nobody expects bad traffic in the next Grand Theft Auto game just yet.

    • BenVimes@lemmy.caEnglish
      6·
      3 months ago

      I grew up in southern Ontario, and it took me an embarrassing amount of time to figure this out. I heard the acronym daily as my parents listened to CFRB, but it didn’t click until I was almost 20.

  • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
    34·
    3 months ago

    Fuck you peasants, believe or not, still no public transit.

    Get into you wage wagon, drive to your wage cage and get back to cucking for daddy

    • n2burns@lemmy.caEnglish
      24·
      3 months ago

      TBF, Ontario (and most importantly, Toronto) are going through the biggest transit expansion in all of North America. For those unaware, I’ll list some of the projects by transit agency:

      • TTC (Toronto local transit) has a new metro (the Ontario Line/eventually Line 3), and 2 new LRT/light-metro lines under construction
      • GO (region transit) is undergoing a huge expansion where they’re increasing frequency and electrifying the lines, while also doing a bunch of smaller projects to decrease travel times and points of conflict
      • Mississauga/Brampton have the Hurontario LRT under construction (also owned by GO/Metrolinx, but local transit, so I separated it)
      • Hamilton’s LRT is in planning
      • ION LRT in Waterloo is planning Stage 2

      There are too many bike infrastructure projects to mention, and a lot of new urbanist developments.

      At the same time, the provincial government also has a number of projects that are crazy car-centric, like Highway 413, so it’s not all good.

      • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
        3·
        3 months ago

        hopefully it works better than california and UK high speed rail lol

        i have zero faith in any of the “countries” to deliver any public works projec on time, within budget and/or for it to actually work.

        • n2burns@lemmy.caEnglish
          5·
          3 months ago

          Pretty much all public works projects go over budget. Pretty much all private private projects also go over budget. However, people only complain about public transit projects going over budget. There are some legitimate reasons for this, like lack of institutional knowledge, but I think people hyper-fixate on public transit while roads “just have to be built, whatever the cost.”

  • Eager Eagle@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    3 months ago

    almost as if addressing the traffic by creating infrastructure instead of the need for traffic with mixed-use neighborhoods isn’t the right approach

  • Rentlar@lemmy.caEnglish
    3·
    3 months ago

    It kind of amazed my friends from Ontario when a whole line of people waiting at the ferry terminal made it onto a double decker bus (close to 100), which would have been 50 passenger cars!

    Why haven’t we explored frequent oribtal GO routes numbered 401, 427, QEW, DVP, with dedicated bus lanes to weave through traffic with ease (BC highway 99 is set up decently well with them)? Sneaky drivers could jump the queue with the priority lane in typical Toronto fashion, but bus drivers with cameras can charge every license plate they catch that’s improperly in the lane. Make it a hefty fine or revoke their license on repeat offenses.