Yeah, no. The Internet isn’t meant to be a safe space for bigots. They’re free to post and everyone else is free to chase them back under the rock where they belong.
I’ll make the analogy more clear to you. In 1984 the government got absolute information control, thats what you guys are worried about. In Fahrenheit 451 people themselves censored everything that offended anyone, eventually leading to all the books being burnt.
People have opinions, and lemmy is becoming a worse echochamber than reddit.
My brother in Christ, you are conflating free speech with the freedom from consequences. You are free to express your opinions. You will not be arrested for that. You can use the internet however you wish to express whatever opinions you have, no matter how stupid or hateful they are.
However, if your opinion sucks, the community will “deal with it” by down voting your dumb ass, and if you piss enough people off, you’ll get banned. Your rights have not been infringed. You’re just an asshole and people don’t want to listen to you anymore. You can freely go complain about it somewhere else.
I’m sure there is a community on the Internet that would welcome your shitty opinions into their little echo chamber. Go there if you don’t like it here. Or, as you say: “deal with it”.
People have the right to say what they want (at least in the US, mostly), which includes people voicing their disagreement with stuff. It’s a two-way street and we’re better off with it that way. You can’t force someone to listen to you, just like someone can’t force you to listen to them.
What you can do, however, is attempt to educate people if they’re willing to be educated. If successful in doing so, you help decrease the amount of bigotry that exists. In my opinion, attempting to engage with an individual to determine their intent is a way of dealing with it. Why stay silent when you could help make the world a better place?
Man I know lots of small town rednecks and none of them are pro workers rights.
They’ve all been fooled into believing trickle down economics and at least half are anti vaxxers and while most aren’t vocal about LGBT stuff they all roll their eyes and wouldn’t give a shit if trans people were crucified. Oh and they all have oversized trucks just like every redneck does.
I don’t know where this idea of good rednecks comes from, there’s plenty of good people but they aren’t rednecks.
How about just deal with it? Internet is meant to be free space, that includes racists, bigots, rednecks, people you disagree with.
Lemmy is worried about 1984 but in actuality is becoming Fahrenheit 451.
Yeah, no. The Internet isn’t meant to be a safe space for bigots. They’re free to post and everyone else is free to chase them back under the rock where they belong.
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And had it pointed out they’re free to post …just not free from consequences.
Unleash the kevins.
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I don’t think you’ve read either book because that analogy makes absolutely no sense.
I’ll make the analogy more clear to you. In 1984 the government got absolute information control, thats what you guys are worried about. In Fahrenheit 451 people themselves censored everything that offended anyone, eventually leading to all the books being burnt.
People have opinions, and lemmy is becoming a worse echochamber than reddit.
My brother in Christ, you are conflating free speech with the freedom from consequences. You are free to express your opinions. You will not be arrested for that. You can use the internet however you wish to express whatever opinions you have, no matter how stupid or hateful they are.
However, if your opinion sucks, the community will “deal with it” by down voting your dumb ass, and if you piss enough people off, you’ll get banned. Your rights have not been infringed. You’re just an asshole and people don’t want to listen to you anymore. You can freely go complain about it somewhere else.
I’m sure there is a community on the Internet that would welcome your shitty opinions into their little echo chamber. Go there if you don’t like it here. Or, as you say: “deal with it”.
“but why can’t I say offensive shit, it’s so funny every single time”
It’s not, edgy humor is stale especially the likes of 4chan
Hey man, don’t you think that’s kinda insensitive?
Nobody on the left is burning books if you’d look outside your bunker asshole.
Nobody on the right is either lmao. People who think this shit are reaching as far as the Q lunatics.
They aren’t burning books YET, but the right sure as fuck are bringing bans into place.
Love you telling on yourself with that list
People have the right to say what they want (at least in the US, mostly), which includes people voicing their disagreement with stuff. It’s a two-way street and we’re better off with it that way. You can’t force someone to listen to you, just like someone can’t force you to listen to them.
What you can do, however, is attempt to educate people if they’re willing to be educated. If successful in doing so, you help decrease the amount of bigotry that exists. In my opinion, attempting to engage with an individual to determine their intent is a way of dealing with it. Why stay silent when you could help make the world a better place?
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Man I know lots of small town rednecks and none of them are pro workers rights.
They’ve all been fooled into believing trickle down economics and at least half are anti vaxxers and while most aren’t vocal about LGBT stuff they all roll their eyes and wouldn’t give a shit if trans people were crucified. Oh and they all have oversized trucks just like every redneck does.
I don’t know where this idea of good rednecks comes from, there’s plenty of good people but they aren’t rednecks.
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I guess I wasn’t clear enough in my last sentence, so me spell it out for you:
There’s plenty of good people in rural areas but they aren’t rednecks.
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Where is this idea that rural equals redneck coming from? Now who’s generalizing, good lord
Pull you head out of your ass.
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Nah, I’m not letting the racists claim redneck. I’m not letting them take Jeff Foxworthy
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I didn’t knew that about good rednecks! I only knew it about the good skinheads. But, today I learned…
I don’t believe that you’ve read either book
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Deal with what, exactly?
https://xkcd.com/1357/