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California Cops Tased a Man Having a Seizure, Then Booked Him on Bogus Charges To Cover Their Mistake
Booked Him on Bogus Charges To Cover Their Mistake
To Cover Their Mistake
Mistake
Never has a word done so much heavy lifting.
“Human rights violation” just doesn’t sound muddled enough.
And newspaper or journalists don’t wanna get hit with a raid
For those curious to know why this is a fear for newsrooms.
Ex-Kansas police chief who raided local newspaper criminally charged - The Guardian 13 Aug 2024
Whoopsie! I done tazed a guy having a medical emergency again!! I’m so kooky!!!
Ok let’s also assume he was intoxicated. Even then why the fuck would you tase him? Should’ve waited for the medical personnel. Then man was in his own goddamned house. WTF!
Even then why the fuck would you tase him?
IIRC the thought the seizure induced thrashing was him resisting arrest. Of course that begs the question, why were they trying to arrest someone having a seizure (that they’d been sent to help BTW) in the first place?
Probably for committing one of the highest crimes of the land - disrespecting a police officer by not following their orders. They don’t care if he was seizing, unconscious, whatever. They will shoot to kill for such an infraction.
Which order to follow…
Jesus fucking christ
IN THEIR OWN HOUSE!
He was seizing right at them and they were afraid for their lives, they really had no other choice! Also, he didn’t stop when they told him to, which is an egregious crime in the US it seems - when a cop tells you to do something you do it, or risk getting tazed and/or shot, even if the order is to turn green, fly, crawl with your arms in the air or stop having a grand mal seizure…
Cops in a town arrested a woman for drinking at home because she was rude to them when they asked her about a unrelated hit and run that happened in front of her home.
She was watching a baseball game minding her own business and they left, then came back and arrested her.
maybe when they heard that he was going through a seizure, they assumed he was orchestrating a drugs bust.
County Jail on charges of resisting arrest and battery. Afterward, he was released “still wearing nothing but his underwear and a disposable hospital outfit; he had no wallet, phone or money,” the complaint states. “He did not remember Alice’s phone number in the jail and they would not help him contact her, so he walked in his hospital slippers about a half mile to a gas station,” where workers helped him call a taxi.
I’m familiar with the case but not this detail. Seriously, fuck these thugs.
Maybe we should defund the police.
Let’s hope they tase some more rich white guys so we can get them on board finally.
They literally won’t go in to those neighborhoods.
I used to think I was going to be a cop, I joined the explorers and hung out with cops, I went on rice alongs. I spent entire shifts following cops around watching them do cop shit my senior year of high school.
They would spend most of their time doing traffic patrols. The “good” cops hung out in more middle class neighborhoods, the shitheads specifically targeted poorer neighborhoods. No one patrols the affluent areas. When a call comes in they argue about who has to go. A domestic disturbance in the trailer park would get every officer not currently arresting someone out to see what’s going on, because they’re bored.
They know not to pull certain cars over, to look the other way when certain people are caught drunk or high in public. That’s just the extent of the stuff I personally saw.
Doesn’t surprise me, although eventually they’ll get so brazen they’ll go after everyone, not just the poor.
But that’s not how it works. The police are owned by them. Unless you mean that they get out of control of anyone and then attack their old masters as well. But that seems like such a bad idea that I don’t know if even cops could be braindead enough to do that.
Rich people have private security and doctors. If a rich kid is having a seizure an ambulance will show up not the police and if they did private security would escort the police if they have emt experience
I mean, they did go after a finance guy. that is what I’d like violent thugs to be doing, if we gotta have em in society. I feel like this one is more funny than bad.
yes I would be shouting bloody murder if they did this to, like, a random unhoused person, but this time was fine, too bad they let him live.
This finance guy? Who was having a seizure? What the fuck is wrong with you?
I’m so in love with the idea of a world with no police. A place where murder is acceptable and any crime you want to commit is never investigated.
You think the police is the line that makes crime not acceptable? Holy shit hahaha. Police officers investigating crime, like on TV? Haha
Hey everyone! A coward ⬆️
Yep I’m a coward, the guy who was arrested by the police for confronting my crack had neighbour for threatening my wife.
I’m the coward because even though I got in trouble I still support having the police around.
You know why?
Because I don’t come from the cesspool that is America
Sorry. ACAB
Murder is already acceptable if you’re a cop.
While the Marin County District Attorney’s office eventually refused to formally file charges against Frankel, he has still suffered lasting harm from his treatment by police. In addition to the physical injuries he sustained from Sinnott’s use of force, Frankel spent over $10,000 fighting the police’s attempts to have him prosecuted.
“Man who was not formally charged with a crime forced to spend $10 000 defending himself”
Officers “submitted the false reports or caused them to be submitted in an effort to smear [Frankel’s] reputation, preoccupy him with a criminal case, intimidate him, and prevent him from pursuing claims against them for improper and excessive use of force,” the complaint states, adding that police “acted willfully with the wrongful intention of injuring [Frankel] and for an improper and evil motive amounting to malice.”
So they collasally fucked up, then fucked up more trying to cover up the initial fuck up. Don’t suppose there were any actual consequences for the police officers blatantly lying to incriminate an innocent man?
Its like they arrive at the scene without any information at all.
They arrived their first, medical assistance still on the way. They should be to busy coordinating to make sure those can do their job efficiently when they arrive. Maybe performing first aid. They shouldn’t be looking for crimes even if they are present.
Theres just no reason for a cop to show up when 911 is called for a medical emergency.
Thats what I really don’t get. In other countries if you call an ambulance, police has nothing to do with it.
In my country (Germany) the central emergency hotline 112, the equivalent to 911, isn’t even run by police. Fire departments are coordinating emergencies.
Ours aren’t run by police either anymore. It’s a company with regional phone centers that alerts local police/ambulance/fire.
Is there a way to call for an ambulance without 911? Like to ensure one ONLY gets EMS. I know you can call the local police station without 911, you should be able to get medical help without meeting armed sociopaths.
Even without information, if your first reaction to the unknown is overwhelming violence, you belong in a mental institution
Yeah like, it’s not even that there’s NO job for cops in this situation it’s just that that job is; make sure there’s nothing obvious that’s going to hurt the paramedics. I can’t imagine,“man on the ground flopping like a fish and occasionally stopping to mumble incoherently” and “crying wife on the ground next to him” would flag as dangerous but their conflict deescalation classes apparently teach “everything is 2 seconds away from killing you so try to shoot it before that.”
As a parent of a teenager who has tonic-clonic seizures (aka grand mal), this story made me nauseous. A patient recovering from a seizure has absolutely no ability to respond or understand what’s going on. Police should be helping and making sure he’s on his side, not tasing him. Whoever these cops are should be fired immediately. I hope Mr Frankel bankrupts the department.
Why the fuck were the cops even dispatched? Any dispatcher should know that cops are fucking morons. And should not be send to a medical emergency. If an ambulance is not available you send firefighters. This is almost criminal negligence on the dispatcher’s part.
In a lot of places the police show up to any EMT/Fire response they can, as a safety thing. So it is likely the police got there before the EMTs could. So, that sucks.
poor country they live in. seems that country needs external help to develop a minimum bit of civilisation. 🤷♀️
I’ve had a seizure in public before, fortunately around my friends. No cops, just a couple of EMT’s. I guess Portland has its priorities a little more in order? They are short staffed.
Even in a perfect world, where cops actually protect and serve the people, if you’re going to send cops to a medical emergency they should only be there as a helping hand to paramedics. If the paramedic tells the cops to fuck off, they should comply. Cops aren’t medics, they’re not trained to properly handle really any medical emergency any more than the average person who’s watched greys anatomy. They have no business being there and if they are they should be the bitch boy to the actual trained professional.
I have a patient who had a seizure and 911 was called. He tends to get agitated, so his wife warned the cops that came to leave him alone to come out of it as sometimes he starts flailing his arms. Well he flailed his arms and the cops decided to handle that by punching him in the head a few times. Cops need seizure training very very badly.
Cops need de escalation training badly. They treat every call as a crime.
ACAB
Even if they didn’t knew what to expect, a patient having a grand mal is lying on the floor unable to control his movements or communications.
How can that person possibly be percieved as a threat that has to be teasered?!?
Cops “For starters when we showed up with our guns waiting to start blasting, maybe the accused should have listened to us. You all should be thankfully, that we took a minute to decide to taser and beat someone would be far more beneficial for us.”
So this article mentions absolutely nothing about this man being a “financier”, but it does mention that the woman is his FIANCÉ. Did this tweet seriously mix those two words up? And then OP read the story, read this tweet, and still went ahead and screenshotted it?
financeer!
Huh, “light and moist,” the block-like shape makes it look like you could beat a rhino with it.
Oh, good. Another police fuckup that the taxpayers are going to be on the hook for.
(I’m assuming US) freedom isn’t free! /s
I am reading, rolled my eyes in pure disbelief and sighed out a heavy air. This kind of thing is something that third world cops would not even do. Plenty of comparison to be made with American cops and cops from poorer countries: corrupt, power-tripping, abusive, and have little to no standards of training. But this level of bullshit is something American cops would only do.
Although on the one hand, had the man been a black person, he probably would have already been shot straight away instead of being tased. American cops are just pure comical clowns and it is tragic.
I read an article like this years ago, I’d fine the link if search didn’t suck everywhere.
A guy had a heart attack and his wife called emergency services. Police were the first to arrive and did what police do.
This guy was in his underwear leaning against the wall and because he didn’t respond immediately to the police shouting at him they threw him to the ground and broke his back.
Why were the police even there? Is it common in the US for them to also come to medical emergencies?
I think they came because the wife sounded really upset on the phone. Police do just like to turn up to things though.
Here in Australia I called emergency services one time because a woman locked her kid and her keys in her car and the police were the first to turn up. They couldn’t do anything so they just stood around until the fire brigade arrived who were the ones that could actually pick the lock to the car. It just makes you wonder why the police bothered at all.
