Question I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on possibly making votes public. This has been discussed in a lot of other issues, but here's a dedicated one for discussion. Positives Could help figh...
Probably better to post in the github issue rather than replying here.
You’re the one who wants this to be the only interaction between users.
I am addressing the points you chose, in the words you used. When you misrepresent what I said - that’s not a “[your] logic and reasons” problem. You are lying to me, about me. I object.
And what I did with that objection was highlight your initial comment to try and connect that rationale with the reality of randos interacting on websites like this. You want accountability? Downvotes are it. Downvotes are a novel and effective means of shaping behavior. If you want to argue that just talking it out is better, don’t act offended when someone disagrees with you in detail.
Every time someone insists downvotes should go away, I try to do what they want and just talk to them about how that’s a bad idea, and they bruise like a summer peach from the slightest pushback.
‘Downvotes are soft moderation.’ ‘But they don’t stop bigots!’ ‘No, hence: soft. But you want even that soft consequence removed.’ ‘How dare you speak to me that way.’
I am what you are asking for. I am the kind of person who will tell you when you’ve lied about me, to my face, and steer the conversation back toward what we fucking wrote. You don’t get to clutch pearls at that point. You are explicitly arguing against the bloodless option to downvote my tone and move on with your life. You wanted this. This is what it looks like, when someone engages with the things you said.
What you’re doing is trolling. In the face of repeated sincere effort to address your posts, you respond with zero-effort dismissal.
Whilst demanding that all of Lemmy be reduced to a state where the only possible response to shite comments is other comments. What the fuck do you want, if not this?
You want this to be the only way people can address bad posts. I am telling you, in detail, why that’s a terrible idea. This is what you want! This is what you fucking asked for.
This is what you want for the entirety of Lemmy. If you’re not keen on that, change your damn mind.
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You’re the one who wants this to be the only interaction between users.
I am addressing the points you chose, in the words you used. When you misrepresent what I said - that’s not a “[your] logic and reasons” problem. You are lying to me, about me. I object.
And what I did with that objection was highlight your initial comment to try and connect that rationale with the reality of randos interacting on websites like this. You want accountability? Downvotes are it. Downvotes are a novel and effective means of shaping behavior. If you want to argue that just talking it out is better, don’t act offended when someone disagrees with you in detail.
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Every time someone insists downvotes should go away, I try to do what they want and just talk to them about how that’s a bad idea, and they bruise like a summer peach from the slightest pushback.
‘Downvotes are soft moderation.’ ‘But they don’t stop bigots!’ ‘No, hence: soft. But you want even that soft consequence removed.’ ‘How dare you speak to me that way.’
I am what you are asking for. I am the kind of person who will tell you when you’ve lied about me, to my face, and steer the conversation back toward what we fucking wrote. You don’t get to clutch pearls at that point. You are explicitly arguing against the bloodless option to downvote my tone and move on with your life. You wanted this. This is what it looks like, when someone engages with the things you said.
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What you’re doing is trolling. In the face of repeated sincere effort to address your posts, you respond with zero-effort dismissal.
Whilst demanding that all of Lemmy be reduced to a state where the only possible response to shite comments is other comments. What the fuck do you want, if not this?
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No.
You want this to be the only way people can address bad posts. I am telling you, in detail, why that’s a terrible idea. This is what you want! This is what you fucking asked for.
This is what you want for the entirety of Lemmy. If you’re not keen on that, change your damn mind.
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