• czech@kbin.social
      11·
      1 year ago

      Fascism:

      a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

      Yea wow, we’ve never seen that in the last 7 years!

      I can see I really triggered you with that word. It’s hilarious that you self-identified with it and got defensive.

        • czech@kbin.social
          5·
          1 year ago

          Ah, right- There are no fascists but if there are it’s the leftists! Thanks for a good laugh today. Don’t ever let facts get in your way, bud.

            • czech@kbin.social
              4·
              1 year ago

              Great theory, but lets take a look at reality.

              that exalts nation and often race above the individual

              Have you heard of MAGA?

              and that stands for a centralized autocratic government

              While Trump announced he “plans to eliminate executive branch constraints on his power if he is elected president in 2024”

              headed by a dictatorial leader

              See the last point…

              and forcible suppression of opposition

              Like Jan 6th.

              You can’t just make up whatever you want when you’re not in /r/conservative. You are constrained by reality. Nobody is here to delete my posts and ban me for you.

                • danhakimi@kbin.social
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  “lol, I hate the main conservative group in the US because they’re not the right kind of Scotsman conservative. Instead, I love the guy who been pushing the most extreme book-banning policy in the US.”

                  did you forget that this was a conversation about fascism when you brought DeSantis up, or do you not know who he is?

                  (rightly or wrongly)

                  lol no

                  But at the same time, I recognize that for someone who truly did believe there was election fraud

                  who do you think tricked them into believing that? or do you think it was all one massive coincidence?

                • czech@kbin.social
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  But back to the definition, you can’t just pluck a couple of words out of there and say it’s a match.

                  That’s what you did. So I responded with actual examples, using the conservative front runner- and you replied with “no true Scotsman”.

                  That makes absolutely no sense.

                  Or, you mean like this very thread where leftists are trying to silence the TERFs? Yes, leftists absolutely love the forcible suppression of their opposition.

                  Oh wow did somebody place you under arrest for posting your opinions online?? Or does this have absolutely nothing to do with free speech, again?

                  • PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    Well, if he didn’t selectively edit reality, he wouldn’t be conservative but my money is on “this is how he stays mask on”.

                    He doesn’t truly believe anything he’s just said. That’s why if you check his history, it’s littered with examples of Fascist Brand™ nationalism that he’s just claimed conservatives don’t believe in.

                    He knows his peers and politicians fit the fascist label better than anyone. That’s why self-confessed, swastika-waving fascists support them and more than likely why he supports them.

                    It took decades to dawn on them, but nobody gives a shit what fascists and neo-nazis think about the way society is run. Their gold standard is a genocide.

                    And so the alt-right was born. They had the same opinions as neo-nazis, the same key figures as neo-nazis and the same solutions as neo-nazis but they staunchly insisted they weren’t neo-nazis.

                    That plausible deniability earned them a platform they’d previously only dreamed of. Not just social media and it’s endless pool of disaffected young men and unmedicated schizophrenics but actual international news networks who hadn’t handed a mic to a Nazi since Hitler.

                    Of course, they couldn’t keep it in their pants for long. They triumphantly ripped off their masks at the “Unite The Right”, proudly displaying their swastika tattoos, white supremacist chants and domestic terrorism against innocent people deemed “leftist”.

                    Their plausible deniability vanished, as did some of their biggest, violentest, most slur-friendly platforms. So they retreated, regrouped and came back with a new strategy.

                    They’re just “conservatives” now. Still the same neo-nazi opinions, still the same neo-nazi figures, still the same neo-nazi solutions. But if you state the obvious, they’ll deny it. They’ll try and shame you for saying it. They’ll claim over and over again that the alt-right never existed and they’re just average conservatives. Maybe even moderates.

                    Not because they believe it, but because they know that going mask off loses them platforms.

                    This guy definitely knows it. His tactics aren’t just rehearsed, but traceable back to brain-storming sessions held by racists, sexists and extremists where they openly try and figure out how best to “red-pill” vulnerable people like children, the lonely, the stupid and the mentally ill.

                    If your instance admin can’t see that, it’s time to find a new instance. That one has cancer and thinks they can stop it metastasizing with polite discussion.