The DeSantis administration’s latest culture war fight over a college-level psychology course is sending Florida schools scrambling to figure out how to handle the confusing standoff, with just days to spare before students return from summer break.

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    The arts, sciences, research and education are free.

    Article 5, paragraph 3, sentence 1 of the German constitution. Every article I read about Florida makes me appreciate that more.

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      Improtantly, article 5, paragraph 3 has two senteces: " The arts, sciences, research and education are free. The freedom of education does not release from the loyalty to the constitution"

      Furthermore, this freedom of “research and education” means “scientific research and education” and thus primarily prohibits the German state of deciding what is researched and thaugt at universities. There are state mandated curricula for all public schools.

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        “Free” in the sense that the state(s) cannot interfere with what is taught. It’s the same meaning of “free” as in “land of the free”, not as in “free beer”.

        However, all public tuition (primary school, secondary school, and universities) really is free as in “free beer”. Only kindergarten and private schools aren’t.

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            Luckily, article 5, paragraph 3 has two senteces: " The arts, sciences, research and education are free. The freedom of education does not release from the loyalty to the constitution"

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            You got me, I didn’t quote the whole thing because I didn’t think it was relevant.

            Article 5, paragraph 3, sentence 2 states:

            The freedom of education does not relieve [the individual / the teacher] from being loyal to the constitution.

            Nazism isn’t compatible wtih loyality to the constitution. Neither is religious schools teaching hate.

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                You’ve encouraged me to look into this further. Apparently, I interpreted these freedoms wrong. They seem (in my limited undestanding) to be more about research and university teaching than “regular” schools. That is, researches can look into anything they want, but teachers can’t teach whatever they want.

                There are curriculums, issued by the individual states, that are binding for schools and teachers. This should’ve told me immediately that education can’t be as free as I thought.

                I agree with you that there should be “minimums in educational curriculum”. There’s an ongoing debate that education should be more standardized across the states, but as it is now, even different schools within the same state have different exams that are not all equally difficult to pass.

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                A minimum education standard would be inclusive not exclusive like what Florida is pushing.

                There’s a clear difference.

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            Rather than crazy religious people using the State to interfere with what is taught to everyone?

            Like in Florida?