• peto (he/him)@lemm.ee
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        Their problem with daesh isn’t their politics or methods, just that they aren’t Christian.

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            Oh that’s so not true. Vast majority of Arabs, especially in Syria, Iraq, Iran, and that region in general identify themselves as Caucasians/white

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              Anyone who’s been to the region can attest to this. While I was in iraq and kuwait most people I saw would be considered “white”. The only exceptions are people who work outside under the sun because tans exist.

              Here is a picture of Shayma Qasim an iraqi beauty queen. I’m dutch/irish/italian and I’m darker than her and considered white.

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                C’mon back in the day even the Irish weren’t considered white and they are some of the palest mf around.

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                Back in college I had a few Iraqi, Syrian classmates (great fellows by the way). They used to always identify as Caucasian race every time the question would arise

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                  I mean, it’s literally in the name. The Caucasus region is in the general vicinity of a lot of predominantly Muslim-Arab countries (in modern times, of course). One could argue that they have more claim to call themselves Caucasian than most white Americans do because it’s really doubtful that the majority of the white-skinned people in America who do identify as Caucasian actually bothered to trace their family origins all the way back to the Eastern Europe/West Asia region.

                  I 100% thought Caucasian was just a fancy/politically correct word for “White” when I was growing up until someone educated me more on it.

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                  You open for feedback / alternative viewpoint on one particular part of your comment?

                  Just a friendly internet stranger helping others reduce micro-aggressions in their everyday language.

                  Edit: what’s with the down votes…I’m literally asking for consent to give feedback on something in the post instead of just jumping to the worst possible interpretation / most uncharitable way of reading what someone says.

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          I.e it’s not a method that puts them in control. You can very much bet if things were more Islamic here that’s exactly what they would be pushing instead. It’s not about god, it’s about control.

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            For the politicians and leaders sure. For the rank and file useful idiots like those pictured? It’s tribalism, and the tribe is very much Christian.

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      The most telling part of all of it was from Trump’s first term where they interviewed some one who was upset with Trump and the response was “he isnt hurting the people he is suppose to”

      They dont care because they will believe they are the good ones until they are against the wall

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      This, but also:

      Frequently claims to ‘not watch the news’ and/or ‘is not interested in politics’

      Almost exclusively acts in ways that are motivated by desire for attention, moreso than any kind of logical basis

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        ‘is not interested in politics’

        The one thing people that say they’re “not into politics” or “don’t like talking about politics” looove not shutting the fuck up about is politics.

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      They hate what they’ve been told to hate, and love what they’ve been told to love. Any similarities or differences between the two are irrelevant to them - they don’t even think to look. These aren’t people exploring their options and picking what looks best to them, they’re just doing what they’re told, and thinking they’re smarter for it.

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          I probably will. They know I think it after many discussions but I haven’t said it. They are so dug in they won’t change or actually hear me. I’ve publicly called out their covid is a democrat conspiracy Facebook posts and unfriended (before leaving Facebook myself). I have told them to remember that I warned them 12 years ago that they are going down a path that’s on the wrong side of history

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            I get it, I’ve cut contact with my mother quite a few years ago. She always was into wild conspiracy shit and there’s a history of mental issues but I did not realize fully how antisemitic it all was until the refugee crisis started and far right disinfo was absolutely everywhere. Here in Germany you basically cannot go into any comment section of a video or news article of certain topics, without it being completely brigaded by far right trolls pushing their narratives. Needless to say that she got worse and worse since then and eventually I noticed how much it affected me and my own mental health to experience this, so I had to look after myself and basically cut her loose, since I struggled with my own issues already. I can’t take care of her and somewhat “ground” her in reality when it takes such a heavy toll on myself, while she still continues to go down that route. It’s sad, but ultimately you can’t help those who do not really want the help.

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            “Loyalist” would probably hurt more. Especially once you remind them that the loyalists were fighting against the patriots, thereby excluding them from being patriotic Americans.

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      Seems likely it’s similar. Aquote from a book I think everyone should read has been stuck in my head for years:

      In the years of its rise the movement little by little brought the community’s attitude toward the teacher around from respect and envy to resentment, from trust and fear to suspicion. The development seems to have been inherent; it needed no planning and had none. As the Nazi emphasis on nonintellectual virtues (patriotism, loyalty, duty, purity, labor, simplicity, “blood,” “folk-ishness”) seeped through Germany, elevating the self-esteem of the “little man,” the academic profession was pushed from the very center to the very periphery of society. Germany was preparing to cut its own head off.

      By 1933 at least five of my ten friends (and I think six or seven) looked upon “intellectuals” as unreliable and, among these unreliables, upon the academics as the most insidiously situated.

      Milton Sanford Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933–45

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        I wouldn’t put my dick in anything that could potentially conceive ever again. I don’t want kids. My genes suck, I’m poor, the world is going to shit and there’s no 100% guaranteed birth control method. Why would I even take that risk at that point?

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                Yes, but I was speaking generally in my initial comment. I don’t live in the US so the whole thing does not even affect me at all in the first place.

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              Vasectomies are not permanent, they can be undone

              Edit: After some more reading on the subject it appears they are much less reversible than I had thought

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                Very very very small chance the pain is permanent and subsists after reversal (AHHHHH!!!)

                Course we still drive ‘n’ stuff, and that leads to permanent risks… just FYI for anyone who didn’t know

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                  But that’s kind of like the very very small chance of an adverse reaction to a vaccine. Sure, it happens. But so close to never as to not worry about it.

                  Obviously, any surgical procedure, even one that simple, comes with risks.

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      That is the problem. For the first time in human history these stupid people have a medium where their caterwauling can drown out sane reasoning.

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      It’s easier to gun down people when you don’t have the mental facilities to think twice about it. There’s a reason morons and idiots always end up infesting authoritarian regimes.

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        Infesting? Or become tools of?

        Those pushing for this are hoping the stupid people jump on board.

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    I think a lot of this is just provocation. “I’m gonna put this on a T-shirt to own the libs.” I doubt they are even thinking about what it means.

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    Sadly, the cult followers aren’t intelligent enough to know what they’re promoting. You could put his face on any slogan and they’d wear it, stick it on their truck or hang it from their house.

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      and some of the cult leaders, who are intelligent enough to know what they are preaching, are taking advantage of the fact and make them do that !

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      Seeing you write the words “truck” and “hang” so close together just amazed me that no one has come up with a way to make Trump truck nuts yet.

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          That Trump nuts kit is exactly what I pictured in my head. I tried to get a few different AIs to make an image of what I was thinking, but struck out. Glad reality is even more ridiculous than fiction!

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          Imagine being so Christofascist that you cannot accept that LGBTQ+ individuals have the same basic rights to exist as you do, while also being unable to resist whipping out your credit card so that you may soon be able to handle a set of your very own TrumpNuts™.

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            I think the whole reason those people exist is because critical self-reflection is beyond their capabilities. They are fueled primarily by ignorant hatred.

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    Fascists are so ugly and stupid. Ew. A rock is smarter. My goldfish from middle school was smarter.

    If only they knew how much Trump doesn’t care about them. I mean, even if someone told them, they wouldn’t understand the words.

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    Why are they so god damn stupid? I mean it, these people are the stupidest, dumbest, most idiotic morons I’ve ever had the displeasure of coexisting with. Jesus Christ…

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      Republicans really do not give a shit about democracy. They’re absolutely fine with the idea of a dictatorship, as long as they think it’ll benefit them and hurt the people they hate.

      When you start to understand this, a lot of what they do makes sense. It’s why they were fine with McConnell refusing to confirm a supreme court nominee in the last year of Obama’s presidency but cheerfully confirming one in the last year of Trump’s term. They know its hypocritical, and they applaud it. To them, this is what “Winning” means; it’s about getting their way. That’s all that matters.

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          They think they’ll be the “standard” and their way of life won’t be impacted.

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            When you start to look deeper into the 2025 stuff you realize that so many of them will not only be impacted just as brutally as everyone on the liberal side. If you aren’t the right version of Christian you aren’t any different than any other religious or non religious group. If you are a woman you will lose even more rights to the point you can’t vote.

            They are literally supporting their own demise. In any other context that is a sign of an irrational and potentially broken mind. But in politics they are free to destroy themselves and us along with it cuz it’s too much to ask for basic competency.

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      Considering how often I have heard, “why can’t the president just [thing that is not within presidential powers]?!” in my life, I think a lot of people believe presidents already are dictators.

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    Democracy is increasingly unpopular because the people who broke it say it can’t possibly work

    And unfortunately a lot of weirdo losers believed those freaks

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      Democracy is increasingly unpopular because the people who broke it say it can’t possibly work

      well put. and the people who broke it did so because they insist it never works (for them); it not working - for them - is actual evidence that democracy is functioning. They simply cannot accept that their ideas are bad, their platform polarizing, their attempts at reassurance outright ghoulish (only a day one dictatorship, it can be bloodless if the left lets it happen, etc.,) - and since they can’t have their way with a popular vote, they’ll choose tyranny, no debate, no hesitation.

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        Exactly. I’m firmly convinced that this is the ultimate goal of decades of Republican obstructionism. They get what they want or nothing happens. And what they want is never helpful and they don’t actually do much of what they do want when they can. Repeal and replace never happened. They just obstructed. How many people decided after that that democracy can’t work? I do not believe newt Gingrich believes in a republican or democratic system of governance. He wants a fucking oligarchy or dictatorship. As has all who followed him.