Fuck Israel and the Palestinians for being endlessly shitty to each other and dragging the whole gottdam world into their regional territorial dispute over and over for the better part of the last century. Fuck the whole lot of them together for perpetuating the most narcissistic conflict of the 20th century. Everyone’s a victim and everyone’s an aggressor and we are all supposed to dissect their long historical bullshit and form a moral opinion?! Fuck off and leave us all out of your fucking drama.
I voted you down because I think you are making a few errors here:
Not every Palestinian is Hamas. Hamas is a genocidal organization that wishes it could kill every Israeli, including civilians, but not every Palestinian believes in that. And not every Israeli agrees with IDF’s genocide, although a disappointingly high proportion of them do.
IDF is clearly more successful in their genocide of Palestinians than Hamas is in their attempted genocide of Israelis.
Even if Hamas and IDF both were equal, a lot of the English-speaking Internet (including many Lemmings here) are Americans, and pay American taxes, and therefore have an obligation to stop the genocide funded by our taxes, through money and weapons the US government sends to Israel. Even if both sides were equally bad, we (I and other Americans) recognize the need to stop Israel, but have no obligation to stop Hamas because we aren’t sending them the weapons in the first place.
Hamas is a genocidal organization that wishes it could kill every Israeli
Hamas is pretty careful to differentiate Jewish people, some of whom have lived in Palestine for millennia, and the Zionist project, which requires the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.
According to reports published on 17 November, the police concluded based on interrogations and their investigations that Hamas did not know about the festival beforehand
It was between Hamas and the military objective. Israeli helicopters fired indiscriminately on the festival-goers so there’s no high-ground here.
But yeah if you attend a music festival outside a concentration camp, you deserve what you get. In a just world, Zone Of Interest ends with the happy families outside the camp getting massacred by its inhabitants.
Fuck Israel and the Palestinians for being endlessly shitty to each other and dragging the whole gottdam world into their regional territorial dispute over and over for the better part of the last century. Fuck the whole lot of them together for perpetuating the most narcissistic conflict of the 20th century. Everyone’s a victim and everyone’s an aggressor and we are all supposed to dissect their long historical bullshit and form a moral opinion?! Fuck off and leave us all out of your fucking drama.
I voted you down because I think you are making a few errors here:
Not every Palestinian is Hamas. Hamas is a genocidal organization that wishes it could kill every Israeli, including civilians, but not every Palestinian believes in that. And not every Israeli agrees with IDF’s genocide, although a disappointingly high proportion of them do.
IDF is clearly more successful in their genocide of Palestinians than Hamas is in their attempted genocide of Israelis.
Even if Hamas and IDF both were equal, a lot of the English-speaking Internet (including many Lemmings here) are Americans, and pay American taxes, and therefore have an obligation to stop the genocide funded by our taxes, through money and weapons the US government sends to Israel. Even if both sides were equally bad, we (I and other Americans) recognize the need to stop Israel, but have no obligation to stop Hamas because we aren’t sending them the weapons in the first place.
Hamas is pretty careful to differentiate Jewish people, some of whom have lived in Palestine for millennia, and the Zionist project, which requires the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.
Ah, so what happened on October 7th?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Hamas-led_attack_on_Israel
Or is what happened okay because only ‘Zionists’ were killed?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re'im_music_festival_massacre
You are a monster, these where innocent people that were massacred and r*ped by HAMAS.
And the best response is that “It was actually the Jews, not HAMAS, that killed all those people” is pathetic.
It was between Hamas and the military objective. Israeli helicopters fired indiscriminately on the festival-goers so there’s no high-ground here.
But yeah if you attend a music festival outside a concentration camp, you deserve what you get. In a just world, Zone Of Interest ends with the happy families outside the camp getting massacred by its inhabitants.