• givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      74·
      3 months ago

      Not really, he has a stereotype of what a Black person acts like, that includes saying the n word.

      He can’t comprehend there are some people who are both Black and find the word distasteful. So to him if a Black person won’t say it, then they’re not Black.

      It’s perfectly logical when looking at it from a racists viewpoint. And if you haven’t noticed there’s a lot of them these days, it’s important to understand how they think, so you can do risk management on what they’re trying to do.

      Do t just write them off as “evil” and illogical because that makes it harder to fight them. Their logic might not be based on facts or critical thinking but there is a type of logic there. Flawed logic is still logic.

      • Lojcs@lemm.ee
        11·
        3 months ago

        No, this is just agitation. The logic is that posting that on twitter will occupy and upset liberals. Don’t give trolls the benefit of sincerity

        Edit: reading that again the last sentence sounds wrong but I think it gets the point across

      • abbadon420@lemm.ee
        5·
        3 months ago

        Oh wow, i was going to write a whole speech about how “blacks are animals” is not how modern racism works. It can’t be That is a 17th century view on racism and today’s racism is much more about politics, fear, insecurity and sometimes just social ignorance. Surely a public and succesful person like Kevin Sorbo would not be so brain damaged as to think black people are not human.

        Imagine my surprise when I find he literally called black people animals…

      • Sludgeyy@lemmy.world
        4·
        3 months ago

        Not really, he has a stereotype of what a Black person acts like, that includes saying the n word. He can’t comprehend there are some people who are both Black and find the word distasteful. So to him if a Black person won’t say it, then they’re not Black.

        It’s not about if they want to say it or not it is about society accepting if they can say it or not. When a non-black person sings a rap song, they are supposed to omit the n-word. If you are black, you’re free to say it when desired.

        This is basically saying. What if Karmala is raping and gets to an n-word. Is she free to say it?

        She is not “African-American” which the word refers to

        African-Americans accepting her into the “black” group based on skin color is essentially reverse racism. “She looks like us so she can be one of us”

        This is coming from a white Mexifinn-American. I don’t get accepted as being Mexican because I don’t have the skin color, and I don’t get accepted as Finnish because I have a Hispanic last name. I don’t care because I enjoy being treated as an American. I get treated like I’m “white” though.

        Sad reality is Harris would get treated as “black”

        I don’t have a n-word card to give so I can’t make the call

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          3 months ago

          When a non-black person sings a rap song, they are supposed to omit the n-word.

          Eh

          It’s not as cut and dry as it used to be.

          Even a decade ago, Ice Cube made eye contact with me at a concert and said it’s weird if we dont sing it when singing along. Like, he said it to the whole audience I’m just tall as fuck, was standing up front, and at peak tan look like a sheet of printer paper.

          It stopped being a clear cut (black and white if you would) issue a long time ago.

          I mean, if you’re around Black people who use it frequently, eventually you’re going to say it. You might feel bad the first time, there might be a discussion, but that’s just how language works.

          Picking up words/phrases/idioms isn’t something that happens consciously. Especially when the people around you use it to refer to you too. Not like there’s a milestone you hit and you get permission. But if people say it referring to you just like anyone else that’s using it, eventually you’re gonna say it.

          It all depends on how someone says it, and how they handle themselves.

          Like if you half ass every word and then scream the n word, people aren’t gonna be happy. Bouncing your head and it comes out like every other word?

          I’d be real surprised if anyone mentioned it

          • Sludgeyy@lemmy.world
            4·
            3 months ago

            Half a decade ago, Kendrick Lemar kicked a white woman off stage for saying it.

            She apparently had the rap down and didn’t think about it.

            I wouldn’t say it in public, in a quote or song. The amount of people that would get angry at you is more than the people that would stand up for you.

            • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
              5·
              3 months ago

              Then dont?

              You’re the one insisting it’s a binary thing where it’s always ok or never ok and the answer is the same for everyone.

              I’m not trying to make you do anything.

            • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
              1·
              3 months ago

              I wouldn’t say it in public, in a quote or song. The amount of people that would get angry at you is more than the people that would stand up for you.

              That shouldn’t be the reason you wouldn’t say it, but I suppose it’s the best we’re going to get.

        • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
          3·
          3 months ago

          African-Americans accepting her into the “black” group based on skin color is essentially reverse racism. “She looks like us so she can be one of us”

          How about she’s black because it’s not only how she identifies and her skin color, but also because it’s the US and the average bigot on the street (or on Lemmy) isn’t going to go, “Hey I’ll take it easy on this one because I know her her blackness comes from Jamaica.”

          No one needs to “accept” that I’m white, and I don’t give a fuck whether they do. I very much doubt that Kamala give a shit who “accepts” her as black, and I’m very sure she doesn’t care what a bunch of bigoted republicans think about the matter.

          You know how I know when someone’s comment about race is going to hold no value whatsoever? When they think “reverse racism” has meaning of any kind.

        • blackstampede@sh.itjust.works
          3·
          3 months ago

          What if Karmala is raping and gets to an n-word

          Although I laughed at the idea of Kamala Harris casually assaulting people, then drawing the line at black people, it’s “Rapping” not “raping”.

    • RaoulDook@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      3 months ago

      It’s dumb but would probably be a pretty funny joke if somebody like Dave Chappelle said it. But hair boy hercules might not have been joking

    • hOrni@lemmy.world
      1·
      3 months ago

      Sounds like an Onion article. “Kamala Harris claims to be black despite not using the n-word”.

  • theparadox@lemmy.worldEnglish
    67·
    3 months ago

    As a nerdy kid with longish hair and few male role models, I really, really looked up to this guy. Hercules, Xena, Kull, and then Andromeda.

    He fell off my radar for a while but I was pleasantly entertained when I found him in the Mythica series. I’d always thought well of him.

    Eventually I heard about God Is Not Dead and looked into the rest of his more right wing work… Its really heartbreaking when people you respected or even idolized as a kid turn out to be so… gross and just… weird.

    Now he again pops up on my radar with stupid shit like this. So sad.

  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
    49·
    3 months ago

    Wait, what if she can’t and then a white person says it?

    Does that make the white person instantly black? What if people cheer? Does that make the person black?

    I have so many questions.

  • pyre@lemmy.world
    47·
    3 months ago

    from the people who brought you transvestigating: introducing blackvestigating.

    totally not weird, guys. they’re very very normal.

  • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
    37·
    3 months ago

    Interesting how it takes literal brain damage to come up with a modern conservative’s take.

    • Davel23@fedia.io
      10·
      3 months ago

      My disappointment stems from the fact that this joke has become associated with Hercules when it originated with A Fish Called Wanda, a much better piece of entertainment.

      • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        4·
        3 months ago

        its because A Fish Called Wanda is full of great bits. This guy has one and only one great moment. So its remembered as such.

        *“dont call me stupid” is what I always remember getting me to laugh the most from AFCW

    • Notyou@sopuli.xyz
      5·
      3 months ago

      Now by him? Did you not watch his God’s Not Dead movie? He plays an asshole atheist professor that makes his students write papers on why God is dead. Very funny, but it tries to be serious.

      • Madison420@lemmy.world
        10·
        3 months ago

        They are not lefties what are you even talking about. They’re both white conservative christofascists.

        I’m not sure if you’re just using tankie as a general pejorative or what but it specifically means authoritarian left.

        • MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world
          7·
          3 months ago

          I think it’s fine considering he specified conservative christian tankie. Like they’re the conservative version of pro-authoritarian.

        • harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          1·
          3 months ago

          “Tankie” started as a general pejorative shorthand for “in the tank.”

          MAGAs are tankies. Evangelicals are tankies. Every extremist is a tankie.

          It’s just we generally only see the communist authoritarian tankies on here.

          • Bertuccio@lemmy.world
            6·
            3 months ago

            That is such an obviously bullshit etymology that I’m going to accuse you of making it up to intentionally muddy the water.

            • harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              4·
              3 months ago

              I was wrong in that it has been used to describe right wing extremists but it does originate with the idea that these people would happily hop in a tank and crush any dissent. I realize I was very vague

              In my mind, it made sense that anyone willing to use force (eg, a tank) to impose their violent ideology is a tankie.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      19·
      3 months ago

      Sorbo has been a reactionary shit going back to his early career, but he didn’t really let the freak flag fly until he stopped landing roles in the mid-'00s. He’s got a whole line of really cringey anti-Atheism movies (check out the “God’s Not Dead” series trails) and he’s been dipping his toe into the MAGA sphere since Trump took office.

      Dude’s totally high on his own supply.

      • Madison420@lemmy.world
        4·
        3 months ago

        Yep, he ruined Andromeda with his weird fascist bullshit, is why the show goes from egalitarian to the Commonwealth being aggressive fascists.

  • kraftpudding@lemmy.world
    32·
    3 months ago

    I wonder what the last president to publicly say the nword was. Like, not Obama alone in the oval office giggling to himself, but a president casually dropping it while doing official president things like a speech or meeting.

    Edit: so a quick Google told me Obama used it on a podcast once (while president), so I guess the boring answer is indeed Obama

      • kraftpudding@lemmy.world
        14·
        3 months ago

        I just assumed like all of them before the fifties did. Which brings me to another interesting question, who was the first president,if there ever was one, to never use it, not even to himself?

        • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
          2·
          3 months ago

          I’m gonna go ahead and just strike Nixon and Reagan from the list of potential candidates for you. Also Johnson, since whipping your dick out to win arguments seems like an escalation from saying the most shocking thing you can think of to win arguments.

          And given that Obama is the only one that grew up during the civil rights movement and all other presidents were already adults by that point, there probably hasn’t been such a president yet.

          If you narrow that to “in adulthood” or “during their presidency”, then I think you’ll start getting some hits. Biden, Bush Jr (though more to avoid being recorded saying it and I wouldn’t hold my breath), Clinton, and Carter would be my guesses for the “during presidency” one. Probably just Carter and maybe Clinton for the “in adulthood” one.

          All just speculation though.

            • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              2·
              3 months ago

              You misunderstood. They took Nixon and Reagan off of the “never said it” list, because of course they said it.

              • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
                2·
                3 months ago

                Yeah exactly. Nixon’s life was basically a steady stream of slurs, though not sure if it was backed up by actual hate or just indifference (sociopathy/psychopathy?) plus a desire to be edgy… Either way, he definitely said it regularly.

                Reagan implemented the war on drugs, which was a hateful act itself, so even without a reputation for language like Nixon had, I’m positive he also said it a lot behind closed doors.