• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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    That’s like saying oh yeah my friend is a serial killer, but at least he doesn’t beat his family. Besides, I will tell him how upset I am about all the murdering he’s doing next time we go out for beers.

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      We have a choice between one person publicly calling for a ceasefire and another who says Israel needs to finish the job.

      I’m not sure what you want us to do here.

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        Ah yes, the person publicly calling for ceasefire while sending the weapons needed to conduct genocide. What’s more liberal than being unable to connect rhetoric to tangible action.

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          I could attend every Free Palestine protest, boycott every Israel-affiliated company, volunteer at human-rights organizations, raise money for Palestinian relief, write a book about the genocide of the Palestinian people at the hands of Israel, and cast a vote for Harris rather than Trump, and you would still say I support genocide.

          While doing what you would probably rather me do, all those things except not cast a vote at all, would be actively helping the opposition, who not only wants Israel to “finish the job,” but also moved the American embassy to Jerusalem, officially recognized Israeli settlements one the West Bank as legal, and has said he wants to deport communists and Free Palestine protesters.

          So at the end of the day, yeah I’m gonna vote for Harris. Am I happy with the Democratic party? Of fucking course not, but I don’t really have a choice in the matter.

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            I could attend every Free Palestine protest, boycott every Israel-affiliated company, volunteer at human-rights organizations, raise money for Palestinian relief, write a book about the genocide of the Palestinian people at the hands of Israel, and cast a vote for Harris rather than Trump, and you would still say I support genocide.

            Any list that contains X contains X. You’re giving material support to a political faction that’s carrying out genocide. The political analogy isn’t voting for Hindenburg, it’s reelecting Hitler in 1944.

            What I want you to do is recognize that there are no solutions within the existing political order and that is not an excuse.

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        They want us to magically fix all the problems overnight, while blaming us for everything in the meantime.

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      No offense, but that’s really goddamn stupid. Do you understand that voting is an exercise in constrained optimization.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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        The psychotic take is saying, sure the party I’m going to vote for is committing crimes against humanity, but at least they’re might be less repressive at home.

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          Oh you don’t feel superior enough yet? Maybe you should be even more reductive. I think your throne might be too far up to see that us peons actually have to do something instead of just cry on the internet and then feel smug about it.

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                Who’s ignoring it? You’re talking to people who are actually trying to do something about it.

                People voting for the party currently conducting a genocide are not in fact trying to do something about it. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

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                  Reductive, useless lies that ignore nuance and reality. Why am I not surprised? Seems like you’ve shut down so you don’t have to think too hard about the reality of your existence so I think we’re done for the day. Enjoy your couch. I’m sure we’ll talk again in a few months. Cheers!

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                    What’s actually reductive is telling people that the only option they have is to vote for one of the genocidal parties. Why am I not surprised? Seems like you’ve shut down so you don’t have to think too hard about the reality of your existence so I think we’re done for the day. Enjoy your couch. I’m sure we’ll talk again in a few months. Cheers!