• Samvega
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      4 months ago

      You don’t get to define what freedom is for somebody else.

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        4 months ago

        When someone is living in their own refuse, they have abdicated the responsibility to make decisions for themselves.

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          4 months ago

          Well, yes, society needs people to abuse.

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            They’re abusing themselves. Society saying “no, stop it.” is the OPPOSITE of abuse.

            It’s no different than grand-ma being a hoarder. Her kids and grand kids step in to make decisions for her because she clearly can’t on her own.

            It’s just that, in this case, it’s society doing the heavy lifting.

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                  I look forward to a human world without humans harming others. It will occur when humans have eliminated themselves as a species, and that time might not be far off.

                  Until then, we can enjoy oppressing the non-conformist and mentally ill. People like Mary Barnes shouldn’t have been allowed to enjoy the freedom she did - she lived in her poo, made art with it, and ended up being a successful artist. Disgusting!!!

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                    Forcing mentally ill people into treatment isn’t harm, it’s helping someone incapable of helping themselves.