She has had good turnout in events but don’t let that fucking fool you. Florida is mostly republican but not like 90% - you can find plenty of die hard liberals in the state.
I’m not saying it’s impossible but don’t hold your fucking breath.
We voted for Obama, twice. Florida is more purple than most believe.
I feel like this has changed a lot in the last 12 years. Florida was a battleground state but many conservatives flocked there after the state and Scott and DeSantis leaned into the whole “freedom” thing.
Boomer retirements started hitting hard in 2011. Florida is approaching 1/3 of the state being older than 60. They’re the most rapidly aging state in the country right now. Nearly every other state is losing old people to Florida on a daily basis.
When Obama was running, Florida was less than 1/4 of the state being 60 or older. Somewhere just under 4M residents of around 19M total. Now Florida has 22M people and of that 7M are 60 or older. The biggest growth changes are in the 0-19 age group that can’t/won’t vote. And the 60+ age group which is guaranteed to vote and skews conservative.
Yep. Live in Florida, family in Illinois. Conservative family members in Illinois love to point out I at least have more freedom than they do in Illinois.
Except they have recreational weed.
Yes, but these are also lifetime NRA members and you can’t use illegal drugs and get your FOID card. Have a few people who still have dealers and won’t go to dispensaries because of this.
You are repeating what people said in 2008.
The main beef with Florida is that the Democrats are just not well organized. As a campaign you can take a risk to invest in a purplish state if there’s a good team on the ground to help you (looking at Georgia for instance). If the organisation is not there, it’s just too risky.
Well, it’s kind of hard to believe because of the absolutely insane people you keep voting into office somehow.
As a diehard leftie who is unfortunately stuck in Florida for this election season, I will absolutely be voting for Kamala.
Kamala Kamala, Kamala, Kamala Kamala!
Worst case, Harris doing well forces Trump to spend more money there. I’m pretty sure his ego would take a big hit losing Florida, so I hope that effects it too and he overspends.
Mmmmm, lets see if this hurricane season changes that.
I can tell you Ian opened some eyes in my area. They’re very interested in the gulf water temp charts I’ve sent them now.
Yeah, I feel like people had this idea of rising sea levels looking like a bathtub filling.
No. This is the ocean. It’s going to look like Ian and Katrina, and sometimes it won’t give back.
50% of those republic voters found out that SCOTUS intends for them to make babies, fetch sandwiches, and shut up about their opinions.
The percentage of women who are cool with that is vanishingly small.
I wouldn’t be so sure.
I think you’ll depressingly find the number of women who are okay with it is surprisingly large - the GOP is basically embracing tradwife bullshit at this point and it seems to still get the majority of conservative women.
I agree. There are also more and more younger voters. Not saying they are all going to vote blue, but far more of them are.
The trad wife movement is divisive though. While I agree abortion isn’t a ticket winner on it’s own. It’s definitely moved a needle.
But what’s the voter turnout like? My brother lives in Florida and he proudly doesn’t vote.
Allegedly 77% in 2020 according to the FL government. I assume that’s among registered voters though, not all eligible.
https://dos.fl.gov/elections/data-statistics/elections-data/voter-turnout/
Yeah, I hope she doesn’t pull a Hillary and dump a bunch money into Florida and Texas instead of campaigning in actual swing states.
Note, even if she is unlikely to win the state, she could force them to campaign there a little and divest resources from places that are leaning blue. Nobody wants to take a “safe” state for granted after 2016.
I get the idea of forcing Trump to waste resources in Florida, but really, the state has just been getting redder, and we don’t want to repeat the Hillary playbook.
Shore up support in the actual battleground states and the weaker “lean Dem” states (e.g., New Hampshire). 270 is all you need.
Did you see the article about Kamala Harris at The Villages? She got a good response. And no state is pure red nor pure blue. People change.
Warning? How about a beacon of hope!
So, if he loses Florida will he have to move again? Somewhere in the Midwest, maybe? Texas (until enough Democrats move there to turn it blue)?
Yes he could lose Florida! Meatball Ron won his first term like 50.5% to 49.5%. Florida is a swing state, but Democrats are so dysfunctional statewide that they can’t organize a two person picnic.
I think that’s changing with the March For Our Lives kids coming of age.
The Harris campaign needs to take all this money they’re getting and invest it in states Biden got 45% or higher in 2020. They can get those states.
she’s got my vote
Hope so, but he is up +7 in the poll in the article.
It’s pretty wild to look at a +7 polling lead as a potential loss.
That’s like, Texas margins.
That’s really not that wild considering recent special elections Dems winning by a large margin when it was expected to be close, or even go the other way. Polls have been skewing more red than reality for quite a while now.
I put this out last week. I was looking at the maps from 2012, 16, and 20, and then looking at the 2020 census product.
Since its not my day job I can’t prioritize the analysis I want to do, but at least in the aggregate, the demographics are there for a blue victory. If I can get around to it, I’ll post my results when I have them.
florida hates democrats but they love the policies. Imo, campaigning in florida should be about improving medicaid and medicare, reducing administrative costs etc.
I think Harris is the kind of wine mom that appeals there but democrats are a tough sell there.
if only the people not allowed to vote in Florida could vote
doubt the US would be red or blue if everyone here could vote
It would be cool. It would absolutely turn the race on its head. Florida has 30 EC votes these days.
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I’m happy the D line is going up, but the truth is, nobody knows what’s gonna happen.
Oh, how I would looooove to donnie lose Florida. That would be {chef’s kiss}.
