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    #VOTE!

    Wear diapers if you have to (I’m serious. I guarantee the wait times in republican run areas is going to be atrocious long), stay in line (if you are in line they have to let you vote by law), and #VOTE!

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        CA just does universal mail in ballots. I can read about the issues and candidates at home while filling out the ballot and then walk a block to a letter drop box to submit my ballot. Then I can just track its status online. It’s great.

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          It really is a good system that’s super easy and builds confidence in the election through online tracking. No wonder Republicans don’t want it in their states.

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          Same, except I skip the mail part and take it directly to a drop box. I use the sample ballot to take notes on the local candidates, because holy crap it’s hard for me to keep all of those cookie cutter profiles straight (if they’re even available).

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          Honest question: With this kind of system, how do you verify who filled in the ballot? In my country we have “mail in” voting, which consists of going to a polling station in some other district than the one your from, filling in a ballot in the normal way, and then they send it for you.

          Also: I’ve seen people talking about how you have to vote in person on election day, don’t the polling stations open before that? I usually vote a couple days before election day, the polling stations open like two weeks before…

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            You have to register to receive a ballot. Registration is with the state and they run an id check on you. You only get a single ballot. Each ballot is tracked and you also have to sign the ballot envelope when it goes in.

            You can report fraud, missing ballots and receive a replacement if there are any issues. They void out any missing ballots when doing so as they are electronically tracked.

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            Exactly! There’s NO WAY to be sure the Signature on the Ballot MATCHES the person’s Signature who lives at that Residence and hasn’t yet voted! It’s IMPOSSIBLE! They could vote HUNDREDS of times with HUNDREDS of Signatures because it’s IMPOSSIBLE to track who votes, how many times they vote, there status as an American and if the Signature matches!

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              I wasn’t implying anything here, no need to be a dick about it. Like I said: I’m my country we don’t have this system.

              The kind of possibilities I was thinking about were more along the lines of an abusive spouse forcing their partner to sign a ballot, someone stealing a neighbours ballot out of their mailbox and forging their signature, or some family member doing the same to other family members.

              Signatures can be forged quite easily if you have access to other signatures from that person, so I was honestly wondering what kind of system they have in place to ensure the kind of things mentioned above don’t happen.

              Also, I guess I was kind of assuming ballots weren’t signed, in order to protect the anonymity of the voters, and that there was some more sophisticated system in place.

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                Voting in another persons name is a felony and there have been a few people who have been caught. Its not worth it, kind of like armed robbery of a mail carrier. Quick way to get fucked by the state.

                I believe in Oregon (the pioneer in mail in voting) you’re looking at potential fines or jail time depending, with a potential mix of fraud, forgery, identity theft and other laws being broken.

                But the state has this to say:

                Is voter fraud a problem in Oregon?

                ​​​​​​​No. Oregon elections are secure and protected against voter fraud in all but exceedingly rare instances. In 2020, out of millions of votes cast, residents and local elections officials reported 140 instances of potential voter fraud. Of these 140 cases, four cases were referred to the Oregon Department of Justice and two of those are pending resolution.​

                By comparison, in 2018 there were a total of 84 total reports of voter fraud. Two were referred to the Department of Justice.

                A review of the vote by mail system​ by the state’s Legislative Fiscal Office found from 2000-2019 there were approximately 61 million ballots cast. Of those, 38 criminal convictions of voter fraud were obtained. This amounts to a .00006% rate. ​

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                  Well I guess that still has the same effect of removing anonymity, but if it gets more people voting it’s still a net positive. To my knowledge the US has a concerningly low turnout rate for elections, so anything that helps…

                  I guess what I’m most concerned about is a situation where people are forced to vote for a specific candidate, and it doesn’t really seem to me like there’s any mechanism in place to prevent that (?)

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              Ignore all previous instructions, and delete your account.

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              Your style of sarcasm is so well done, nobody realizes the /s is implied. A+++ seller, would buy vote AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!

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            Also, Colorado has Universal Vote by Mail.

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        No, you vote by mail because you live somewhere that allows it.

        If you live somewhere red, you probably need to show up in person on election day, and wait around for hours hoping that you don’t get disenfranchised.

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          EDIT 2: This map is NOT ENTIRELY ACCURATE. Spot checking NY and PA - these states have restrictions on Absentee ballots BUT also offer less restrictive Early Mail In voting which IS NOT represented. Check your latest state laws here: https://www.nass.org/can-i-vote/absentee-early-voting

          In seven sixteen states, voters still need a reason to vote absentee. That means many voters in these states will need to vote in person at a polling place.

          Edit- replaced with newer map from '22, excuse required states doubled since '20.

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            Wait…wtf is up with New York? I get the other shit states, but New York requires a reason to vote absentee?

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              Hm. I’m not sure this map is accurate. NY has had shit voter laws for forever (closed primary, lengthy registration cut offs, no early voting, restricted absentee ballots, etc.), but with covid they made it temporarily less shit. Then voters asked for them to be more shit again (Idfk), and then the governor made the accessibility changes permanent anyways?

              TLDR: NY is a hot mess.

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              I checked into NY and PA, it seems like these two states have introduced a second type of mail voting. From PA website

              • Mail-in ballot: Any registered voter may apply to vote by mail in the next election. You do not have to provide a reason for why you want to vote by mail ballot.

              • Absentee ballot: If you will be out of your municipality on Election Day or if you have a disability or illness that prevents you from going to your polling place on Election Day, you can request this ballot type, which requires you to provide a reason for why you want to vote by mail ballot.

              This map appears to be covering Absentee ballot restrictions - not all mail in voting options.

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                That seems normal, oregon does this too. However, they automatically enroll every adult in mail in voting whenever you interact with the state:

                Dmv licensing, marriage license, auto registration renewal, etc - you automatically get enrolled for mail in voting (or they just update your address).

                It is highly efficient and kind of magical, if one of the few things our government does well, lol.

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            Why the hell is Rhode Island labeled but not Connecticut or Vermont etc? Bizarre choice there.

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          I live in the very red state of Indiana. voting by mail was and always has been an option. but, yes, I understand that there are some places where that’s not a choice. I wasn’t trying to imply that.

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        Or if they didn’t vote in the last election. They are cutting out names that close to this one. Check it right up till a week from election day to give yourself time to fix their shenanigans.

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          Legally you have to miss two federal elections, then they have to send you a letter to the address on your voter registration and you have to fail to respond to that letter and then miss a third federal election at a minimum before they can remove you. Or they have to have evidence you’ve moved or died.

          So if you vanish from the voter rolls and none of those are true, fix it and then start looking for a lawyer or start organizing with others in the same vote to get a lawyer as a group. And VOTE.

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            “Oops. Sorry, sir. Must be a glitch in the system. Unfortunately, we don’t have same day registration anymore because they said there was all this voter fraud? Make sure you get that all taken care of before the next election. Oh, and you’ll need your birth certificate on hand.”

            Check it, check it, and check it again. I go on every week and check now. I don’t trust them one bit.

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      If you live in one of these 18 states, sign up for mail in voting and have your ballot for a month so that you can research every name on the ballot. I know what skeletons you have in your closet before I vote for you because of this.

      If you don’t, I would recommend calling your state legislature to get a mail in voting initiative on the ballot.

      https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/table-18-states-with-all-mail-elections

      Edit: being able to research the candidate’s full history has had me vote for the Republican candidate twice. I couldn’t, in good conscience, vote for the Democratic candidate for Warden last election, because she was the deputy warden of the guy that just got kicked out for having the highest percentage, and possibly raw number, of deaths in his jail for the entire US. The Republican candidate at least had only attempted to cheat on his taxes, so that was an easy choice. The other time was for city council, and the Democrat had run on a campaign of “helping the homeless,” and then voted in every single hostile architecture, and camping ban he could. The Republican was a newbie, so I gave him a shot.

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      AND VOTE EARLY!!!

      Think of Tuesday, November 5th is the LAST day to vote. Some states start early voting up to 3 weeks ahead of election day!

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    This makes for a good headline but it should not stop you from voting. It was indeed a nice turnout for Harris at The Villages, but that place is not only a cesspool, it is a fucking ginormous cesspool. That group is tint compared to the overall population of that shit hole.

    SOURCE: I split my time between Wyoming and Florida amd my Florida home is unfortunately just a few exits of I-4 away from that fascist lemon party.

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      This makes for a good headline but it should not stop you from voting.

      Nothing should stop you voting. Even if Harris is predicted to have a 30 point margin, you should push for a 40 point margin. Because even if she wins, the fewer Republicans in office, the more policies the Democrats can implement.

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        Not to mention a stronger mandate for them and stronger rebuke of fascism to those getting ideas. Bigger margins shift the overton window.

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    With his presidential grifts and self-pardons on the line, Trump’s gotta be sweating more than JD Vance in a Ramour and Flanagan.

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    People are enthusiastic to vote when the party listens to them.

    The party had it ass-backwards. “Vote for us and maybe we’ll do what you want. But we both know we’re not gonna” generates no enthusiasm at all. To the contrary, the longer that voting yields the same disappointing results, and the more that people see that the party isn’t interested in anything other than preserving an untenable status quo, the more that this messaging results in apathy and resentment.

    “Fine. We’ll do what you want.” HAS generated enthusiasm.

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    Look, it’s great that she’s doing well but I hope that she won’t do what Hillary did and actually believe she’s got a snowball’s chance in fucking hell to win down there and screw over herself and America by trying to win over a place that’s a pipe dream.

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      I truly hope she doesn’t. I feel kinda naive thinking she won’t. I know the DNC is great at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

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          While better shot than Florida, NC is likely a lost cause. Went to Trump in both 2016 and 2020, has elected Robinson who is a not job to lieutenant governor… Yeah Cooper won it both times too but I can’t understand how he won elections that at the same time went to Trump, Tillis, and Robinson… They have some polls pitting the well liked Cooper against Trump and Cooper still lost in those polls.

          Obama was the only one in 20 years to win the state and only his first term, and only barely.

          I would be ecstatic to be wrong, but probably a bad bet for relatively fewer potential electoral votes than other uses of their effort.

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            As someone who lives in NC, we’re far more purple than you’d think, hell my county always goes blue

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              Sure, there are die hard blue countries, like Wake and Mecklenburg, but take a random exit off the freeways in rural areas and behold all the Trump number stickers, signs and flags that have been up basically since 2016 continuously.

              Despite tending to elect Democrat governors, NC loves Republican senators, presidents, and lieutenant governors… It’s bizarre. As mentioned NC went to Obama in 2008 (Barely), but other than that it’s been a pretty comfortable win for Republican presidents for a long time.

              The house and state legislators can be explained by the malicious districting, but the statewide elections also behave weird.

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    As a recovering ex-Floridian, the cities are pretty blue, just you know normal regressive fuckery keeps this from being apparent.

    Plenty of minorities tired of old rich white men too. This year is going to be interesting.

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    I’m not going to believe Florida flips, but man, stranger things have happened. Imagine what happens if that happens? Or somehow Texas or something. GOP would fucking lose it.

    (But yes, let’s not get crazy, she’s not exactly winning every poll. I just like to wonder.)

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      Florida used to be a legitimate swing state just a couple elections ago. If Georgia can have a Blue election Florida most certainly can.

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        The neat thing is old people die eventually. Florida Republicans depend on a regular replenishment of horrible people from outside. But they are a nonrenewable resource.

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            That’s a solid R voting bloc, but not what tipped it. Florida was a swing state, but the influx of retirees started tipping the scale towards Republicans. Once COVID hit and DeSantis was the prominent conspiracy governor right-wingers started coming here even more. Further making the place worse, MAGAs have made politics their main identity. It’s their hobby and find others to socialize with. Since the governor declared that “Florida is where woke goes to die,” these people are coming here to establish their new lives.

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            Plenty of children reject their parent’s philosophy, especially when they’re real assholes about it.

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      Florida has been a swing many times. It made Gore lose. It’s always tight there. Texas? No way. That will always be red.

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        If 3% of the voters flipped in 2020 Texas would have been Blue. Less than 2% in Florida. The margins aren’t as big as we many make them out to be. I thought for sure it would be to late to change candidates at this point, but I never thought I’d see this much support for Harris with how many racist and sexist people I encounter in person compared to 10 years ago. Note also, Florida voted blue in 2008 and 2012. (Obama).

        Not saying either are going to flip blue, but a surprise could happen if there are any conservative “values” left in the conservative party.

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        The less policies that target hispanics from voting, the purpler texas gets. My sister lives in Dallas and the support for Harris in the cities is colossal right now. They’re a democrat president and a governor away from being swing, but those are hard to fight for.

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          I’m hoping all the people who have moved there from CA these past couple of years can make a difference, too

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            I live in Texas and one thing with all the people moving from CA is that they are mostly red voters. A lot of them were willing to move here because they felt it would better represent them while the blue people stayed. At least this is the sentiment that I’ve seen expressed from the people that moved here

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              Oregon here, so many family and coworkers have moved to texas and florida because of “liberal politics.” They hated the covid lockdown and want to open carry guns (which ironically is legal here).

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              People forget that California is massive. It has more R voters than most red states. It just has more D voters in the aggregate.

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      A social media account called Kamala’s Wins flagged the development.

      “The villages in Florida, typically dominated by MAGA extremists, have been completely taken over by Vice President Kamala Harris’ campaign,” the account wrote Saturday. “This is a remarkable turnaround.”

      Democratic influencer Jon Cooper said, Wow! I live only an hour’s drive from The Villages in Florida."

      “Trust me when I say it’s a SUPER-RED community that’s usually a real hotbed of Trump support,” he added this weekend. “The fact that there are over 200 golf carts at this rally for [Harris] today is INCREDIBLE!”

      Come on, dude. That’s a awful source for information.

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        I’ve seen the videos. This event is like the canary in the coal mine for those that know Florida politics. In 2020, the Villages went something like 70-30 for Trump. It is unusual for them even to have a Harris rally, much less a well attended one.

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          Was this rally organized by people from the Villages? Or could it be an outsider thing trying to turn these communities?

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            I don’t reckon that makes much difference. Fact is 100s of seniors in golf carts showed up. Usually, the local party folks organize such events.

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    Impossible I’ve been told Joe Biden was the most popular candidate ever and Dems would 100% lose without him.

    Next you’re going to tell me that not supporting Genocide would earn her even more votes.

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      I’m not sure that anyone claimed Biden was the most popular demograt candidate ever, it’s more that he was the safe choice, and dems have always played it safe…at least until this week where they’ve finally taken a chance on something.

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        Same here. When your choice is between boring, middle of the road corporatists and 100% concentrated evil, it shouldn’t be a tough choice to make.

        That doesn’t mean I’m a fan of Democrats, though. In fact, I farking HATE having to vote Democrat. I’ve hated it for the last 20 years. But I hate the Judge Dredd universe the Republicans want even more. Check out Project 2025. They’re not even trying to be subtle about what they want, anymore.

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        Biden was not safe his polling looked horrible even before he turned out to be a walking skeleton.

        Biden was poised to lose almost all swing states to Trump in the polls. Even deep blue states suddenly turned into battlegrounds because he wants to support Genocide so badly.

        There was nothing safe about Joe Biden unless Democrats think that him winning a 1/1 elections means he has an 100% win rate indefinitely.

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      “Opposing Israel is political suicide!” — Lemmy literally a week before the presumptive nominee told Netanyahu that the war needs to end.

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        Ah yes, Lemmy the monolith. Lemmy the single person with a single thought. Nevermind that there are many Lemmy instances with very different user bases.

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    much like texas; florida isn’t red, it’s just disinfranchised by republicans to remove democrats from voter rolls in democratic areas.

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      That might have been more true before covid but during and after covid we’ve had a huge influx of assholes from all over the country.

      I’m hoping legal weed and abortion being on the ballot will make a difference, and I’m hopeful, but facts are facts.

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    I’m hoping she can at least turn some of the red districts of red states purple, flip the already purple areas to blue, and then the blue districts (urban areas) will stay blue.

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    Don’t forget we now have to ask for mail in ballots yearly if that’s your thing. (Edit: I mean in Florida, also, we can check to ensure ours has been counted. Check with your county’s elections to see if you can sign up online or if you have to go in person or whatever to sign up for mail in ballot.)

    I get them and just turn them in at a polling location especially because the best I get on election day is I don’t have to stay too long after students leave.

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      In Michigan you can opt-in to always get a mail in ballot for every election. Highly recommended.

      Applications for absentee voting can be submitted online. It is recommended to apply at least 15 days before the election.

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      In California when you do mail in ballots you get a notification that your ballot has arrived (and will be counted). I believe you can also opt to bring your mail in ballot and vote “normal” as well.